[Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost

Thu Oct 27 13:39:36 UTC 2016

I'm not sure what is meant by "the lazy sighted boon". What are these 
devices for if not making our lives easier? If the blind benefit from 
such a feature, then so much the better IMHO!

On 27/10/16 08:19, George Dominguez via Electronics-Talk wrote:
> No, I never thought the Zenith VCR was made with us in mind.  But
> braille overlays for stuff is a totally different deal.  That is made
> specifically for the blind.  But I guess not enough people asked for
> them, and most people don't even think the blind exist.  Pam.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: cheez via Electronics-Talk
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> A lot of things are novelties, that so happen to benefit the blind
> community.  I hope you didn't think the VCR which had verbal onscreen timer
> setting was done with us in mind?  That was just the beginning of the lazy
> sighted boon.
>
> Vince
>
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>> I have no idea why any company starts and then stops something: maybe
>> not enough people used it, or maybe also changes in management with
>> different ideas about what is needed, or budget, all kinds of
>> reasons.  Pam.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Ashley Bramlett via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 10:50 PM
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>> Lost
>>
>> Hello,
>> That's too bad GE no longer has braille overlays. why did they stop?
>> Does any appliance maker do this anymore? Whirlpool?
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: George Dominguez via Electronics-Talk
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>> Lost
>>
>> I remember when I first moved into this building in 1984, the appliances
>> were GE.  I had heard that GE made overlays for stoves and ovens.  So, I
>> called them, and found out that they no longer did that.  They just had
>> overlays for microwave ovens.  And now, I guess they don't have that.
>> Pam.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Annette Carr via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 4:18 PM
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>> Lost
>>
>> I can confirm that GE no longer provides braille overlays for
>> microwaves. I
>> did not inquire about other appliances, but I'm guessing they no longer
>> provide braille overlays for them either.
>>
>> Annette
>>
>>
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>> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of cheez via Electronics-Talk
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>> Whirlpool no longer makes braille overlays, and I'm sure GE has followed
>> suit.
>>
>> Vince
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
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>>
>>> Hi,
>>> doesn't Whirlpool make braille overlays for their appliances? they
>>> used to
>>
>>> do so.  Perhaps a call to them might shed light on this situation?
>>> Robin
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Annette Carr via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 4:37 PM
>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>>> Cc: Annette Carr
>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well I am at a dead-end when it comes to finding an accessible over the
>>> range microwave.  They just do not exist.  We are left with no option
>>> but
>>> to
>>> purchase one that I cannot use as we need the exhaust.  We cannot just
>>> replace the microwave with a traditional exhaust hood as we would
>>> have to
>>> replace the cabinet above the range to position the hood at the required
>>> height.  Well, that is not going to happen since it is not possible to
>>> match
>>> a new cabinets to the existing cabinets.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The appliance manufacturers think that making an appliance ADA
>>> accessible
>>> requires them to only meet physical access requirements.  Access for the
>>> blind is not even a consideration.  It is just a matter of time before
>>> access to all appliances are out of our reach.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Annette
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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