[Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost

Thu Oct 27 18:34:44 UTC 2016

If more people learned even enough braille just to read labels maybe 
the overlays would still be around. I hace met too many1! blind people 
who refuse to learn cane travel even, and never mind braille. This is 
just sad! It makes you in my mind, illiterate. Sighted people still 
read and write print all the time we should too.
Original message:
> I'm not sure what is meant by "the lazy sighted boon". What are these
> devices for if not making our lives easier? If the blind benefit from
> such a feature, then so much the better IMHO!

> On 27/10/16 08:19, George Dominguez via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>> No, I never thought the Zenith VCR was made with us in mind.  But
>> braille overlays for stuff is a totally different deal.  That is made
>> specifically for the blind.  But I guess not enough people asked for
>> them, and most people don't even think the blind exist.  Pam.

>> -----Original Message----- From: cheez via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 9:25 PM
>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>> Cc: cheez
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost

>> A lot of things are novelties, that so happen to benefit the blind
>> community.  I hope you didn't think the VCR which had verbal onscreen timer
>> setting was done with us in mind?  That was just the beginning of the lazy
>> sighted boon.

>> Vince

>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Dominguez via
>> Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
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>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost


>>> I have no idea why any company starts and then stops something: maybe
>>> not enough people used it, or maybe also changes in management with
>>> different ideas about what is needed, or budget, all kinds of
>>> reasons.  Pam.

>>> -----Original Message----- From: Ashley Bramlett via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 10:50 PM
>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>> Cc: Ashley Bramlett
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is
>>> Lost

>>> Hello,
>>> That's too bad GE no longer has braille overlays. why did they stop?
>>> Does any appliance maker do this anymore? Whirlpool?

>>> Ashley

>>> -----Original Message----- From: George Dominguez via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 4:44 PM
>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>> Cc: geodom at optonline.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is
>>> Lost

>>> I remember when I first moved into this building in 1984, the appliances
>>> were GE.  I had heard that GE made overlays for stoves and ovens.  So, I
>>> called them, and found out that they no longer did that.  They just had
>>> overlays for microwave ovens.  And now, I guess they don't have that.
>>> Pam.

>>> -----Original Message----- From: Annette Carr via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 4:18 PM
>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>>> Cc: Annette Carr
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is
>>> Lost

>>> I can confirm that GE no longer provides braille overlays for
>>> microwaves. I
>>> did not inquire about other appliances, but I'm guessing they no longer
>>> provide braille overlays for them either.

>>> Annette


>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of cheez via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 10:31 PM
>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>> Cc: cheez
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is
>>> Lost

>>> Whirlpool no longer makes braille overlays, and I'm sure GE has followed
>>> suit.

>>> Vince

>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Robin Frost via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: "Robin Frost" <robini71 at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 1:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is
>>> Lost


>>>> Hi,
>>>> doesn't Whirlpool make braille overlays for their appliances? they
>>>> used to

>>>> do so.  Perhaps a call to them might shed light on this situation?
>>>> Robin

>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Annette Carr via Electronics-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 4:37 PM
>>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>>>> Cc: Annette Carr
>>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost

>>>> Hi All,


>>>> Well I am at a dead-end when it comes to finding an accessible over the
>>>> range microwave.  They just do not exist.  We are left with no option
>>>> but
>>>> to
>>>> purchase one that I cannot use as we need the exhaust.  We cannot just
>>>> replace the microwave with a traditional exhaust hood as we would
>>>> have to
>>>> replace the cabinet above the range to position the hood at the required
>>>> height.  Well, that is not going to happen since it is not possible to
>>>> match
>>>> a new cabinets to the existing cabinets.


>>>> The appliance manufacturers think that making an appliance ADA
>>>> accessible
>>>> requires them to only meet physical access requirements.  Access for the
>>>> blind is not even a consideration.  It is just a matter of time before
>>>> access to all appliances are out of our reach.


>>>> Annette


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