[Electronics-Talk] Does where we shop impact accessibility of appliances?

Sun Oct 30 16:37:16 UTC 2016

It is apparent that appliance manufacturers are unable or unwilling to make 
their products accessible to blind consumers, and so it may be time for 
government intervention to force them to do so.  Advocacy groups for the 
deaf were successful in getting the government to pass legislation that 
mandated that all TV sets be equipped with closed caption decoders.  Why 
don't we blind consumers have similar clout?  Ironically, I have discovered 
that products made by generic manufacturers are more likely to be blind 
accessible than those made by the traditional brand name manufacturers.  For 
instance, low-end microwaves made by less well-known manufacturers are more 
likely to have mechanical controls or touchpads that can be labeled with 
tactile markers than higher-end models made by the more familiar brand 
names. And speaking of printers, I just purchased a monochrome laser printer 
from one of those generic manufactures, namely Pantum.  I haven't set it up 
yet, but based on my initial inspection, it should be usable by a blind 
computer user.  It has a rocker-style power switch on the rear panel and two 
buttons on the top: a wifi button and a continue/cancel button.  No LCD 
display to mess with, so it should be reasonably easy to use.  And for only 
$35, which is what it is currently selling for on Newegg.com, it is a great 
deal to boot.  So for anyone who needs a basic, monochrome laser printer 
with wifi capability, check out the Pantum P2502W.

Gerald

-----Original Message----- 
From: Annette Carr via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 12:04 PM
To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
Cc: Annette Carr
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Does where we shop impact accessibility of 
appliances?

Hi Brad,

I believe that there are additional factors that are impacting the
identification of appliances that can be used by people who are blind.  Let
me see if I can explain.

The lack of knowledge or the unwillingness of manufacture's customer service
phone representatives to understand what blind consumers are looking for.  I
have been working with GE for 3 weeks to identify an over the range
microwave or microwave/convection oven, as well as a slide-in range.  I've
explained what I need, as well as explained why each model they have
identified is not accessible to someone who is blind.  After making no
progress with that representative beside having a plastic card with 45
2-letter braille combinations mailed to me, they have upon my request
forwarded my case to someone else (maybe a supervisor).  I am now starting
over with explaining what I am looking for, and explaining why the models
being suggested by this second person is not accessible to someone who is
blind.   They continually provide me with products that the manufacturer has
labeled ADA Accessible, but they are not accessible to people who are blind.
If you read the manufacturer's definition of ADA Accessibility, you will see
that factors for non-visual access is not even mentioned.  In addition, 3
other manufacturer's (LG, Whirlpool & Kitchen Aid) customer representatives
have told me point blank that they do not have any products that do not use
the new technology of very sensitive control panels that do not require
pressure to operate, or a knob that only provides feedback on the digital
screen.

If the manufacturer does make even one model that can be accessed without
having to touch the overly sensitive panel in multiple spots to navigate to
the desired location, or not require reading a digital screen to know what
settings you are selecting, the customer representative are not able to help
the blind consumer identify these models.  Sales people in local stores do
not know anything more than what is written on the display sign for each
appliance.  So when you ask if the control panel requires pressure to
activate or whether the product produces an audible sound when the button is
activated/de-activated, they have no idea.  The inability to test a product
in a store just adds to our inability to identify a product that is
accessible or that could be adapted to meet our individual needs.

When visiting the homes of friends and relatives who have replaced various
appliances within the past 3 years, we have found the appliance control
panels to be overly sensitive, require no pressure to activate, and overall
size of the panel to be too small to fit braille labels or other type of
markings within close proximity to the buttons.  Consideration of placing
the marks on the frame of the panel does not provide you with access to the
buttons that are in the center of the panel.

Some microwaves are using a single dial used to control multiple features
such as cooking mode, cooking time, cooking level, convection oven
temperature, and much more.  Some microwave models do use a knob that
provide a slight click, but does not have a defined start or end to the
rotation.  Other models provide no physical feedback when turning the knob.
The information being controlled by the knob is displayed on the digital
display, and no audible sound is able to be produced as the settings are
changed.

In addition, many models no longer produce an audible sound when a button is
activated or de-activated.  I found this unbelievable, so we have read
through a few manuals and have confirmed that it is indeed true.

Your idea of visiting my local appliance stores equipped with an extension
cord is worth consideration.

I think that it is time to stop letting manufacturers assume or dictate that
if a person is blind that they be:

.         Limited to a stripped down model.  I believe that either all
appliances should be accessible to people who are blind, or at a minimum at
least 1 or 2 models be accessible within each model series or product level.

.         limited to the concept of accessibility requiring the consumer to
add braille labels or tactile marking to a product, or requiring the user to
memorize what a button is or the settings available with each press of that
button.  If it is reasonable for the average person to memorize what each
press of a button will do, then why do manufacturers provide displays or
indicator lights on their products.

In addition, the following should also be considered:

.         If it is not reasonable for a manufacturer to train all of their
customer representatives, product distributors and sales people to
understand the needs of a consumer with a disability, then manufacturers
need to have a dedicated department (even if it is one person) who is
knowledgeable of the needs of people with disabilities and the features of
each product and how they can meet various user needs.  Information on how
to access information about accessibility of products needs to be easily
found.

.         Manufacturers need to provide more details in their product specs
that can help a consumer with a disability identify which features/aspects
of an appliance they can or cannot access given their specific needs.

.         While access to large home appliances is crucial to the daily
independence of people with disabilities, access to other products such as
exercise equipment and their mobile device apps, as well as entertainment
and office equipment needs to be considered.  Have you tried to find a
dedicated printer or Multi-Function Printer lately?  A person who is blind
or those who have any type of disability should not have to spend days and
weeks trying to find a product that they need or want.

I hope my rambling is helpful.

Annette

-----Original Message-----
From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Hodges via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 9:52 AM
To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
Cc: Brad Hodges
Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Does where we shop impact accessibility of
appliances?

Colleagues:

As some of you long-time Federationists may recall, a number of years ago I
had the privilege of working at our National Center. One of the areas of
research and advocacy I undertook was to begin the exploration of the state
of appliance accessibility. I also was pleased to have had several articles
published in the Braille Monitor. Entitled "Crisis For The Blind at the Big
Box Store" they summarized our understanding of the issues and technology of
the time.

Fast forward more than a decade and I find myself prowling the isles of big
box stores and other appliance departments once again. This time as a member
who has an abiding interest in this topic. I intend to collaborate with the
Technology Team at the Jernigan Institute, to once again publish a
comprehensive survey of the appliance accessibility landscape.

To make a very long story short, most of what we observed in the early
2000's still applies. So, what has changed? Why are things considerably more
difficult now than they were in 2004? Is it time to establish standards for
accessibility? Is government intervention necessary? Have our expectations
for accessibility changed?

In posing these questions I'm hoping to expand our scope of exploration and
to consider additional forces and factors which contribute to the bedeviling
time we all have in finding a microwave oven or washing machine which we can
use.

Yes, I'm getting to the topic you expected after reading the message header.
Yesterday I was shopping at my local JCPenney store. Low and behold, what
did I find on the second floor but a very well merchandised display of major
appliances from LG, Samsung and GE. Of particular interest was how
unfamiliar many of the models were. I have been tracking availability at
Lowes, Home Depot and Sears for many years. It struck me, as I explored a GE
front loading laundry pare, which look quite usable that something which a
mgr at Home Depot shared. The floor space for appliance display in the big
box store is rented by each manufacturer. Thus the choice of which models
are available for public preview is controlled exclusively by those
manufacturers.

Do you suppose that one of the issues which contributes to the state of
affairs is a re tale experience which only includes a sampling of less
accessible or manageable products? Since I believe it to be the case that
relatively few models in any manufacturers lines is really usable, the
chances of those models not showing up in the display space is perhaps quite
high.

In addition to the GE laundry machines, I found an LG electric range with
beautiful burner turn knobs on the front, and a back panel which would
appear to lend itself very nicely to tactile markings. Several
over-the-range microwaves looked promising, again to be used with tactile
indicators. A Samsung dishwasher with 5 easy to feel buttons also intrigued.

I'll return to JCPenney, this time with a camera, an extension cord, and my
husband to lend a hand and a pare of eyes.

Hope I haven't run to long here, but there was a qualitative aspect of

the overall experience which I found encouraging. I also trust that as

we progress in collecting our findings and thoughts for a new Monitor

article that the collective experience of this group will help inform

the conversation.

Brad Hodges

Huntington WV

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