[Electronics-Talk] Smartphone for visually impaired people, There Are Ways To Fund It

Andy Baracco wq6r at socal.rr.com
Sun Dec 24 05:52:54 UTC 2017 

Desires are not needs.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ashley Bramlett via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances" 
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Smartphone for visually impaired people, 
There Are Ways To Fund It


> Gerald,
>
> We were discussing legitimate funding sources for a smart phone and many 
> blind people feel they need one given all it can do in one device such as 
> the aps for buying items, to transit aps, to of course aps for money 
> identification, bar code  scanning, and OCRing.
>
> No one suggested begging with a tin cup and I have read this whole thread 
> so did not miss anything.
> What Peter suggests is legitimate and what anyone does including, no what, 
> sighted  people!
>
> Busking is a way to earn money that is far from begging. You perform in a 
> crowded area such as a street corner or a metro station.
> You do not ask for money but rather you show your talents in the hopes 
> people drop you some money.
>
> Let's be civil here and please do not say something that someone said 
> which they did not.
> Below is the quote.
> Please read carefully and see yourself that Peter did not suggest begging.
> Nor did I; what I said btw was that you can get technology loans.
>
> The quote
> "
> There's always Busking, Crowdfunding, Dumpster diving,Network Marketing, 
> and
> other ways to increase one's income to cover the cost of assistive
> technology without getting rehab involved. "
>
> Ashley
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 6:20 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
> Cc: Gerald Levy
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Smartphone for visually impaired people, 
> There Are Ways To Fund It
>
>
> It is absolutely astonishing to me that a Federationist would suggest that 
> a
> blind person short on cash grovel on a street corner with fiddle and tin 
> cup
> to raise enough money just to buy a smart phone.  This is prcisely the 
> type
> of behavior that reinforces the negative stereotype that is widely held by
> the general public that many blind people are just a bunch of lazy
> mendicants who are looking for a handout.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Ashley Bramlett via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 1:11 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
> Cc: Ashley Bramlett
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Smartphone for visually impaired people,
> There Are Ways To Fund It
>
> Peter,
>
> good ideas and I was going to recommend that.
> I know the price for adaptive equipment is high and I'd have more things
> like a braillle display if it were affordable.
> I make do with what I have such as my old braille notetaker.
>
> However, if you really cannot afford a product and cannot get assistance
> from family, you can do what you suggested or there are usually assistive
> tech loans out there.
> I know virginia has some sort of low interest loan for adaptive tech. And
> also, there  might be help from NFB national or state affiliates.
>
> Ashley
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Peter Donahue via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:07 PM
> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
> Cc: Peter Donahue
> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Smartphone for visually impaired people, There
> Are Ways To Fund It
>
> Good afternoon everyone,
>
> There's always Busking, Crowdfunding, Dumpster diving,Network Marketing, 
> and
> other ways to increase one's income to cover the cost of assistive
> technology without getting rehab involved. If you want it bad enough 
> you'll
> find a way to raise funds to buy it. That's what you would need to do if 
> you
> were sighted. Some of the ideas above even allow you to do a little
> community service in the process of increasing your income to cover these
> costs.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Michael Russillo via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 3:00 PM
> To: S L Johnson via Electronics-Talk
> Cc: Michael Russillo
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] FW: Smartphone for visually impaired 
> people
>
> Amen to that; the blindness market is a smaller one--I know, I know, 
> that's
> been hashed over time and again.  We should see if the company has an
> installment plan to pay for those tech items gradually; alternatively 
> check
> with NFB for low-interest tech loans; just my 2 cents.
>
>
> Peter
>
>
> On 12/13/2017 3:26 PM, S L Johnson via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>> Hello:
>>
>> Thanks for this information.  I got excited when I began to read about
>> a phone that I could use that was a smart phone with real easy to feel
>> buttons.  Then I got to the price.  Why do all the companies making
>> products for the blind price them so high that most of us cannot
>> afford them?  I know you will all say research and development but the
>> reality is that most blind people, especially retired seniors who have
>> to live on less than $760 per month, cannot afford it.  I wish there
>> was some way of making these products more affordable to all of us.  A
>> smart phone with GPS, OCR scanning and other helpful apps would be a
>> great help to all blind people but only those with the financial
>> resources will be able to have it.  The same is true with the Braille
>> notetakers.  All of these wonderful products will never be in the
>> hands of most of the blind because of their high price.  I know it
>> will never change but I wish it would because I really could use this
>> phone and a new Braille notetaker that is still supported and up to
>> date instead of used equipment that I can no longer get repaired by 
>> companies who no longer support them.  I apologize for venting but I am 
>> reallyfrustrated!
>>
>> Sandra Johnson
>> SLJohnson25 at comcast.net
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tracy Carcione via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 11:37 AM
>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>> Cc: Tracy Carcione
>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] FW: Smartphone for visually impaired
>> people
>>
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