[Electronics-Talk] smartphone for the blind

[Arlene]

Pam, You're probably right. oh no I goofed up again. my thoughts were 
getting ahead of my typing, hahahaha.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pamela Dominguez via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances" 
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Cc: "Pamela Dominguez" <geodom at optonline.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] smartphone for the blind


> By the way, there is an l in there.  I guess you just got used to the way 
> you spelled it before.  Pam.
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Arlene via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 4:26 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
> Cc: Arlene
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] smartphone for the blind
>
> Pam, as I said in the other message I didn't come across the signal 
> strength
> information when I was looking over the acatel in the store, but I think 
> I'm
> going to buy the acatel pretty soon, next month, and I'll see what I can
> find out. also since the sim mobile is so much like the acatel I'm going 
> to
> see if I could find where the signal strength information is. It will be
> interesting if Steve finds the signal strength information on his wife's
> acatel. I want to follow up with a few things that I was telling you all
> earlier about these more recent basic phones such as the acatel, the sim
> mobile and the z t e phones. I haven't found the voice comands area, how 
> for
> example that is on the samsung gusto 3, and on the t-199, the voice 
> commands
> is under the organizer section, I don't think these new phones have that.
> The other thing is sometimes, as Steve says the phone will make some of
> these clicking noises and sometimes in some instances it won't and in
> certain areas it doesn't seem to speak everything. For one example, I was
> trying to find the ringtones area on the z t e phone, as I was telling you
> all earlier. We went to almart tonight and a friend found where the
> ringtones were which was under sounds and under general. I heard some of
> what he was doing, but I'm not sure if it actually spoke general, 
> especially
> in being in a store. Anyway when I was looking for the ringtones under
> sounds before I never found the area called general which I'll have to try
> again. So I think there's some parts that don't speak as it should. Though
> I'm not complaining, it's a basic phone and I wouldn't expect that it were
> perfect. I will og over that again though. The other thing that is a bit
> disapointing but possibly I'm missing something, I these more recent 
> phones,
> I can't seem to find hwere or how to do the symbals such as period, comma
> and so on. The sales guy was showing me, but it didn't seem to speak those
> symbals, as it does on the gusto 3, the t-199 and the kyrocera. I was on 
> the
> right track when I told you all that the z t e phones are on track phone,
> verison and straight talk. I don't know about any other versions of the z 
> t
> e phone on other carriers, but it's posible there are other versions of 
> the
> phone on some other carriers. What we did find out from our friend tonight
> when we were at walmart was that the z t e phone on straight talk is a
> different  model of z t e phone  that is used for verizon.
>
> Arlene
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Pamela Dominguez via Electronics-Talk" 
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> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
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> Cc: "Pamela Dominguez" <geodom at optonline.net>
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 6:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] smartphone for the blind
>
>
>> When you were messing with the Alcatel, did you notice anything about how 
>> to find out the signal strength?  Pam.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Arlene via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 6:52 PM
>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>> Cc: Arlene
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] smartphone for the blind
>>
>> Hi, Ashley, I have 6  button phones, the nokia 6600 that was with 
>> t-mobile
>> not connected now that I had with mobile speaks screen reader, the t-199 
>> for
>> t-mobile from 3 years ago, samsung gusto 3 with verizon prepaid that came
>> out 3 years ago, the kyozera dura xv with verizon prepaid of which this
>> phone may have came out some time in 2016 that I got this past summer, 
>> the
>> sim mobile from at&t which I purchased about this past summer, and the z 
>> t e
>> with verizon on prepaid which I got about 3 weeks ago. The same day that 
>> I
>> purchased the zte about 3 weeks ago, I purchased my first iphone, the se
>> phone. I have a whole lot to learn with the touch screen but in time I 
>> think
>> I'll learn it. I feel very possitive about that, it's just a different 
>> way
>> of navigating with the screen. When a friend could assist us in pairing 
>> up
>> our new bluetooth key board and get the wifi set up with the phone that 
>> will
>> be good as well. I have a friend that's beginning to show us about
>> navigating on the screen which is helping, and through other friends on a
>> list I'm on they've sent iphone tutorials and the iphone books which will 
>> be
>> helpful as we're learning. While I'm truly possitive about learning the
>> iphone, to me anyway, nothing in many respects will never replace buttons 
>> on
>> a phone. Honestly, I say that because that's what I've been use to with
>> phones for the last 41 years, when I first used a button phone, of course
>> back then it wasn't a cell phone.  In the last 15 years of having cell
>> phones, the only other touch  screen phone I got 2 years ago is the 
>> android
>> modo g that I don't know that I'll ever learn which I did my best to 
>> learn
>> with instructions from the android site that has the instructions of the
>> gestures and swipes and so on. With a few brief experiences with getting 
>> to
>> see iphones in stores, I always felt more so that I could learn it, so 
>> maybe
>> after I learn the iphone, maybe I could go back to trying to learn my 
>> modo g
>> which is not connected. Back to the basic button phones, while all these
>> phones will never be smart phones, 2 of the phones I meantioned that I 
>> have,
>> the sim mobile from at&t and the zte which I have on verizon and the zte 
>> is
>> on some other companies such as track phone and possibly straight talk, 
>> both
>> these phones are a little more advanced than the samsung t-199, the 
>> samsung
>> gusto 3, and even more advanced than the kyozera phone. I may not do as 
>> well
>> as other individuals in explaining how these phones are more ad vanced
>> technically, and some thing that I'll mention wouldn't be important to
>> everyone as far as what the phone is capable and why it seems more 
>> advanced,
>> after all you want a phone to use as a phone so you can make phone calls
>> when you need and want too. There's one other phone that I don't have 
>> that
>> is on the same level as the sim mobile and the zte phone and that is the
>> acatel phone with t-mobile which I took a good look at, at the t-mobile
>> store when the sales guy put the speech on for me. All 3 of these phones
>> when making a call, while you're on the call, you could press one of the
>> buttons, I think it might be the right soft key or the okay button which
>> will tell you the phone number of the person you're talking too. I just
>> discovered this when I experimented with making a 3 way call with the 2
>> phones I have. This would be more important, let's say you were on a 
>> 3-way
>> call, and one person hung up, it will let you know when you press the 
>> button
>> which phone number left the line. Now I'm telling anyone reading this, 
>> that
>> you could hear it give you information such as the phone number you're
>> talking too, and also when you go to make a 3-way call, when you press 
>> the
>> left soft key the phones voice will say add a call and your press the 
>> okay
>> button and it said to dial the phone number to add, all of this while 
>> being
>> in a call with the first caller. This one advancement or what is new 
>> about
>> these phones, the phone's voice from the text to speech can be heard
>> speeking these options and instruction as i described can be heard while 
>> in
>> a call, which the other phones I mentioned don't have. While in a call as 
>> I
>> described you might be wondering if it speaks anything else from pressing
>> the buttons, as far as I've noticed, it only speaks the option to add a 
>> call
>> and I think it was to end a call, and the instruction to dial the number 
>> to
>> be added, again this is while being in a call. The other advancement or 
>> what
>> is new about these basic phones, you can go on the internet very well.
>> Between the sim mobile and the zte phone that I have, the sim mobile is
>> better with going on the internet, you can go to just about any web site, 
>> or
>> go to google and do a search. While I don't have the acatel I'm very sure
>> that the experience with going on the internet with the acatel would be 
>> just
>> as a possitive experience. Actually the sim mobile for at&t and the 
>> t-mobile
>> acatel feel like, set   up of the phone   and the way the both phone work
>> seem exactly the same, with the exception that the acatel has more items 
>> and
>> icons than the sim mobile has. With the brief time with the acatel under 
>> the
>> clock icon it had 3 items, which I'm not sure I'm remembering correctly
>> since it was during the summer I was exploring this phone. I think my sim
>> mobile it just as the alarm clock, and also unfortunately and this sounds
>> crazy we were told by the at&t sales guy that the sim mobile didn't come
>> with ringtones. From phone to phone sometimes it's hard to remember some 
>> of
>> these details, that even for myself I have to go back and check on, so i
>> apologize for any details I've forgotten or weren't sure of. There some 
>> more
>> details that I still yet have to check out with these phones. If anyone 
>> has
>> questions about any of these phones, I'll answer any questions that I 
>> know
>> the answer too, and as far as the acatel phone, Pam has this phone and 
>> she
>> could tell us what's under the clock icon. Ashley, I also agree with you
>> that I wouldn't want to depend on the voice activations because it 
>> doesn't
>> always hear accurately which is true on my tv and on some of the voice
>> activation on some of the phones such as the basic phones such as the 
>> t-199
>> and the gusto 3.. Th voice activation for paying bills is very good
>> especially with t-mobile.
>>
>> Arlene
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ashley Bramlett via Electronics-Talk" 
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
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>> Cc: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 12:47 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] smartphone for the blind
>>
>>
>>> Arlene,
>>> I agree with you and Sandra.
>>> I prefer buttons and voice commands have their downfalls especially 
>>> since its not an exact science and the machine can misunderstand you.
>>> It’s a nice option but I would only feel comfortable using voice 
>>> commands in certain environments.
>>>
>>> What type of phone do you have? From your message, I assume you also 
>>> have a phone with buttons.
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Arlene via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 3:03 PM
>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>> Cc: Arlene
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] smartphone for the blind
>>>
>>> Sandra, I'm with you, I don't want to talk to anything. If all the 
>>> menues
>>> and buttons talk that's what I'm looking for especially in a button 
>>> phone.
>>> Also I don't like to buy anything right way either. Give it time for 
>>> bugs to
>>> be worked out of it, and as in this new phone possibly in time the price
>>> will go down to some extent.
>>>
>>> Arlene
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Sandra Streeter via Electronics-Talk" 
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>>> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: "Sandra Streeter" <sandrastreeter381 at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 9:32 AM
>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] smartphone for the blind
>>>
>>>
>>>>I am not scared of it being Android. I am scared, however, of it 
>>>>becoming a paper-weight, as some have pointed out. Now, for those who 
>>>>know more than I: I would be interested in this aspect of deaf history: 
>>>>How did the deaf get closed-captioning, TTY’s, etc., so mainstream? It 
>>>>seems that we struggle a lot more to get blind-friendly things to 
>>>>happen, to be affordable, and to stick around. It’s even worse if, like 
>>>>me, you have other issues than blindness that make using a touch-screen 
>>>>untenable, and you need something like the Envision 2 to even be able to 
>>>>get on the learning curve for mastering a ‘'new smartphone. Before 
>>>>anyone brings up the idea of voice commanding, I also would prefer not 
>>>>to talk; I know I’m a whiner and complainer, and you have all see my 
>>>>wish list for the perfect smartphone, but sometimes, it bears repeating. 
>>>>If I had the money to get the Envision, I probably would, except for 
>>>>that one problem of how long it would be supported; I’d be inclined to 
>>>>wait a couple years to make sure any bugs were worked out and that it 
>>>>still had some longevity, and maybe even to wait for the price to drop a 
>>>>bit—as tempting as it is to be hasty. So, in the interim, I may end up 
>>>>with a feature phone, which I could at least use for texting and phone 
>>>>calls on the road, and at work, where you really need something you can 
>>>>function with.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sandra
>>>>
>>>> “If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because 
>>>> he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, 
>>>> however measured or far away.”
>>>> (Henry David Thoreau)
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