[Electronics-Talk] best currently-available flip phones

[Arlene]

Roger, I could understand completely why you don't have the data on your 
phones. I was just asking about that since I'm so curious when it comes to 
these flip phones to know all they can do. I'm not swallowed up by these 
phones though that I can't think of anything else, as in the case with some 
individuals with smart phones. Whatever comes included in the phone, I like 
to see if I could work some of the different items while other individuals 
wouldn't care so much about that. Such as on the 4 lip model flip phones we 
have, I can use the calculator. on a few of them I could use the calendar. 
When it comes to some of these other items that are included,  some phones 
are easier than others. I'm really satisfied with these phones, for me and 
my boyfriend, these phones include just enough of what we want in a cell 
phone, plus having the speech and being able to navigate through the menues 
and options in the phones to either adjust a setting or send a text message 
or write in a new text message. We don't do facebook or twitter, though we 
use our computers for email and going on the internet. It would be neat to 
have a notetaker though. In fact way back in 1996 my first experience with 
going on the internet was with a braille and speak I had at the time. At the 
time I didn't have a computer yet, it was a year later when I got the 
computer. I'm not being critical to anyone that has a smart phone, but if I 
ever get use to the android phone I have or if I ever get an i phone, I 
wouldn't feel the need to do the many things on my phone, as others do, 
using it for just about everything, like using it as a second computer. Such 
things as listening to books on it, not even newsline since I could just 
dial it from either my house phone or simple flip phone, having a music 
service or a few types of music services. Possibly if I had some sort of 
smart phone I might get some apps for scanning and color identifyer and 
maybe a moneyidentifier app, besides the stand alone machines that I 
wouldn't get rid of because I would have them all tthose kinds of items on 
the phone. I guess if you have all that stuff on one's smart  phone it's 
like putting all your eggs in one basket. If something goes wrong with the 
phone, all of that will be gone until you get your phone fixed or replaced. 
We're glad we have these stand alone machines, like the color identifier, 
the gps, the money identifier, blood pressure machine, and even calculator. 
I could understand and thank you, for pointing out why we see few flip 
phones in the stores. I guess I just got lucky with the verizon store having 
the kyocera back in the summer. I don't remember right now if they had any 
others. They probably didn't because if they had we would have looked at any 
others they had. I was just so excited, in july of 2014, after my friend 
Donna and I both purchased the t-mobile samsung  t-199, which we didn't know 
had speech in it when we purchased the phone. Anyway the next day, Donna 
who's sighted was going through the menues of the phone and saw what was 
called talkback, and she tried it to see if it talked and surenough it did. 
I was out of the room for a little while, and when I came back in the room, 
she was really excited and she was telling me she had something to show me. 
I was so surprised too. Beginning that night we started exploring what I 
could do with the phone. The first few things I did was to write in a few 
contacts, and wrote a text message to one of our friends. I was so worried 
along the line, like that kyocera I had back then that the speech would have 
been somewhat halfbaked but it didn't disappoint me, everything talked. The 
only exception in the contacts there a few fields you can't fill in, it just 
doesn't talk on a few ffields, but adding and writing in a contact for most 
of the fields is fine. I'll tell you, I'll never forget when she discovered 
that phone talked and how we went through with me doing different things 
with the phone, it was so wonderful, with this being 2014, it took me back 
to 8 years before that in 2006 when I had the nokia 6600 with mobile speaks. 
Now considering with the accessibility, the speech being included in the 
phone it doesn't cost any extra than the price of the phone now. I'm going 
to call my verizon store just to see if they have the phones you and your 
wife have, if they don't I could send away to for them as you said to do. I 
would really love to see them. I'm just going through my messages, so 
hopefully you were able to give us an idea of what it sounds like.I wonder 
if it has the same voice the other lg phones have. It's so wonderful that we 
can share information about all this.

Arlene
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roger Behm via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'" 
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Cc: "Roger Behm" <aistech at ameritech.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] best currently-available flip phones


> Hi Arlene,
>
> You can go on the internet with the LG Terra and Alt 2, but neither my 
> wife
> nor I have any interest in doing so with the phones, nor want to pay for a
> data plan. We both use our home computers to facebook or other things. 
> Cell
> phones do not andn will not control our lives like so many people have let
> their cell phones, especially the smart phones take over their lives!
>
> Your chances of finding any flip phones in a Verizon store is very slim,
> since there is no profit in them for the sales person.
>
> You can always order one from Verizon national store and if you do not 
> like
> it you can return it in their trial period and no cost to you.
>
> I do get messages from facebook and sometimes I reply to say happy 
> birthday
> jim, but that is through text messaging back to facebook.
> My plan has unlimited calling, text messaging, sending pictures  etc.
> The LG Terra and my wifes LG Alt 2 do everything we want and I leave the
> rest to my BrailleNote Touch or home computers.
>
> Regards,
> roger
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Arlene via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 9:45 PM
> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
> Cc: Arlene
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] best currently-available flip phones
>
> I'm just wondering Roger with the lg tera and the flip 2, if you did have
> data would you be able to go on the internet? I mainly use my computer for
> going on the internet, but it's great that with some of these simple 
> phones
> that you can do it to an extent. Sometime I'll have to go to the verizon
> store and see these 2 phones. All these simpler phones are great for thing
> to use your phone as a phone as you said, Ashley, and to be able to 
> navigat
> through the menues, ti write in your own contacts, go into the settings if
> need be and other things. I like using the calculator on both phones, the
> gusto 3 and the kyocera. As far as the kyocera's voice, it reminds me of a
> softer toned seri voice in a way. It would be interesting to know what the
> voice speech sounds like on the lg tera and the flip 2. I'm wondering if 
> it
> might be the same voice as the lg 450 and 470.
>
> Arlene
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ashley Bramlett via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 7:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] best currently-available flip phones
>
>
>> Roger,
>>
>> thanks for chiming in with a personal experience and a good one.
>> After all we hear a lot about what does not work in electronics.
>>
>> Like Sandra, I'm looking for a more accessible flip phone. Features I 
>> need
>
>> are the ability to read the address book, menus such as my missed calls,
>> access voice mail, buttons I can feel since my current one has small
>> buttons that is hard to feel although I do manage to do it, and the
>> ability to read and send text messages.
>>
>> Can you explain what the voice sounds like? Did you say it does not
>> connect to the internet but does send texts?
>> My phone currently is with verizon and its an lg model.
>> I like the ability on it to press one button such as 3 and it calls the
>> number that was programmed into it such as I press a number and it calls
>> my mom.
>> I'm not sure if that is standard on flip phones or not.
>>
>> Also, what is the alt 2? Is this a kind of flip phone? Does it work on
>> verizon's service?
>>
>> Thanks very much for such information and its helpful to learn of simple
>> phones with no data service needed for those of us who really just prefer
>> to use a phone as a phone. I'm certainly interested to use the internet
>> sometimes, but I'd rather use a larger device for that so I'm thinking of
>> getting a tablet soon. Have a laptop currently wich services as my mobile
>> device.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Roger Behm via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:15 PM
>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>> Cc: Roger Behm
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] best currently-available flip phones
>>
>> Hi Arlene,
>>
>> I own the LG Terra flip phone and a few of my customers have bought them
>> too
>> and love them for low price and accessibility,  having a free screen
>> reader,
>> 1/8 inch ear phone jack, bgreat speaker phone, really good sound on head
>> phones or built in ear speaker or speaker phone, buttons are easy to feel
>> and have markings on the send, end call, and the 5 way cross controls.
>>
>> Price is usually around $50.00, I got mine through national Verizon for
>> $21.00 and they waved the activation fee.
>>
>> No data plan, bluettoh, can go on the internet, the menus are totally
>> accessible and you can even take a picture very easy too and attach it to
>> a
>> text message.
>>
>> My wife bought her an LG Alt 2 flip phone, because she is sighted and
>> wanted
>> a little bigger screen and a 5 pixel camera.
>> It also can turn on full read on on to speak everything, but she said 
>> turn
>> it off, it drove her crazy, since she doesn't need the screen reader.
>> She paid $79.00 plus $40 activation fee when she upgraded.
>>
>> It uses a micro usb charging cable just like the victor stream 2 and vr
>> trek
>> and many other devices.
>>
>> It is not easy to find in the local cell phone store, since the sales
>> persons want to sell you a smart phone for much better commission in it
>> for
>> them.
>>
>> If you are not wanting a smart phone and the high cost of the smart phone
>> and data plan, then I would strongly recommend the LG Terra or LG alt2
>> flip
>> phones.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Roger
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Arlene via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 9:20 AM
>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>> Cc: Arlene
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] best currently-available flip phones
>>
>> I have heard of the Tera phone, but I hadn't thought about that one for a
>> long time. I've never seen that phone. Due to my experience with the lg
>> 450
>> and the lg 470, I'm rather hessitant about lg phones. I won't say that
>> they
>> are all awful, but something is very wrong where when the speech goes out
>> on
>>
>> the phone, especially after the first night of having the phone. The lg
>> phones with the speech seems to work a bit differently than some of the
>> other phones, in some ways I think that could be improved, but at least
>> they
>>
>> did in cluded the speech on some of their phones.
>>
>> Arlene
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jude DaShiell via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "evelyn weckerly via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel at panix.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 5:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] best currently-available flip phones
>>
>>
>>>I hope that is more accessible than the LG 4500 I had several years ago.
>>>  Many menu options simply would not return any spoken feedback when used
>>> with that model.  Any LG electronics I treat with suspicion going
>>> forward.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 21 Nov 2017, evelyn weckerly via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 20:59:27
>>>> From: evelyn weckerly via Electronics-Talk 
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>>>     <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: evelyn weckerly <weckerly at i2k.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] best currently-available flip phones
>>>>
>>>> Sandra,
>>>>
>>>> If you are with Verizon, check out the LG Tera.  It has full screen
>>>> read-out-in  other words, everything talks.  It's much bigger than 
>>>> older
>>>> LG
>>>> flip phones.  As for contracts, the big companies have been doing away
>>>> with
>>>> them.  I got mine a couple months ago and just paid for the phone
>>>> outright
>>>> and am on no contract any more.
>>>>
>>>> Evelyn
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Sandra Streeter via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Date sent: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 15:40:27 -0500
>>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] best currently-available flip phones
>>>>
>>>> Hi, all,
>>>>
>>>> Well, I???? finally deciding that, in their current iterations, I am
>>>> just
>>
>>>> not
>>>> made for smartphones, so have come to the somewhat painful but also
>>>> liberating decision to investigate currently-available flip phones.  I
>>>> had a
>>>> Haven back in the day, and also tried the LGNV 3 and Gusto, but found
>>>> they
>>>> weren???? easy to text with.  I am totally blind, and so need full TTS
>>>> so
>>
>>>> I
>>>> can navigate and use functions without sighted assistance; preferably a
>>>> track-phone, but willing to go with plans if I have to????ust would 
>>>> like
>>>> not
>>>> to spend some money on contracts, monthly bills, etc.  Any ideas?
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sandra
>>>>
>>>> ????f a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is
>>>> because
>>
>>>> he
>>>> hears a different drummer.  Let him step to the music he hears, however
>>>> measured or far away.??????
>>>> (Henry David Thoreau)
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