[Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a Smartphone

Fri Apr 6 19:23:00 UTC 2018

Do you know this for sure?  Are there a large number of guide dog users on the negatively rated uber passenger list?

I suspect passenger ratings are to avoid passengers who have shown weapons, thrown up in a car, not shown up for a ride, verbally abused the driver, and other things that do make you undesirable.  But, I don't know that for sure either.

Jim

On Fri, Apr 06, 2018 at 03:04:29PM -0400, Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk wrote:
> 
> The passenger rating system is nothing more than an isidious means to refuse
> service to riders that drivers want to avoid, like blind passengers with
> guide dogs, and is little more than a legal means  to circumvent
> discrimination laws.  For instance, a driver could give a blind passenger
> with a guide dog a low rating, and  if this person receives low ratings from
> other drivers, he will eventually be denied service altogether.  A driver
> could always concoct a reason for a low rating such as the dog puked up the
> car.  It's his word against the passenger's.  Uber is a company that plays
> fast and loose with the laws, and is in managerial turmoil.  I'm surprised
> that Uber is allowed to get away with this ratings system, and that one of
> the blindness advocacy groups hasn't filed a complaint or lawsuit against
> them.
> 
> Gerald
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Andy Baracco via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 2:39 PM
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> Cc: Andy Baracco
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a
> Smartphone
> 
> What you say can be true, but it also can be true for taxi and even
> paratransit drivers.  Uber and lyft do have policies in place regarding
> service animals, but that doesn't garantee that there won't be issues. This
> is why it is important to be familiar with local, state, and Federal
> antidiscrimination laws, especially those that pertain to people with
> disabilities and service animals.
> 
> Andy
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk"
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> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a
> Smartphone
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> 
> > 
> > Keep in mind that Uber and Lift may not be available in all areas.  In
> > general, if you live in a large city and your neighborhood is not well
> > served by yellow taxi cabs, it is not likely to be served by these
> > ride-sharing services, either.  That's because Uber and Lift drivers
> > tend to concentrate where the cabs are, because that's where the
> > business is. Taxi cabs tend to serve rich neighborhoods and avoid poor
> > neighborhoods. The same is true of Uber and Lift.  Another dirty little
> > secret about these services that many consumers are not aware of is that
> > drivers actually rate passengers, so that passengers that consistently
> > receive negative ratings from drivers bmay not be able to book rides in
> > the future.  So a blind passenger who travels with a guide dog may
> > constantly receive negative ratings from drivers who dislike dogs riding
> > in their vehicles.  To me, this is a blatant violation of privacy
> > rights.
> > 
> > Gerald
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- From: Andy Baracco via Electronics-Talk
> > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 10:25 PM
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> > Cc: Andy Baracco
> > Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a
> > Smartphone
> > 
> > I believe that you set up payment info when you sign up for Go Go. It is
> > done with a credit card, as Uber and Lyft drivers do not accept cash, even
> > though I believe that you can tip an Uber driver with cash.
> > 
> > Andy
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Russillo via
> > Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > To: "Drew Hunthausen via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: "Michael Russillo" <plrussillo at comcast.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 6:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a
> > Smartphone
> > 
> > 
> > > Ah, interesting. Good idea; I'm curious as to how one pays their
> > > driver; I understand with the smartphone app the rider sets up
> > > payment through PayPal or something so the Uber or Lyft driver can
> > > be paid; I'm curious if this'll work with this service, and how safe
> > > is it to give monetary info to Gogo if one goes through them to
> > > register? Meanwhile i'll take a gander at the site; thanks for that
> > > info; could be really helpful as I don't own any smartphone and I'm
> > > not of the tapping school, but old-school physical buttons.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Peter
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 4/5/2018 9:45 PM, Drew Hunthausen via Electronics-Talk wrote:
> > > > So this service uses Uber and Lift drivers?
> > > > 
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> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On
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> > > > cheez via Electronics-Talk
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> > > > Subject: [Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a
> > > > Smartphone
> > > > 
> > > > New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a Smartphone:
> > > > GoGo is an automated hotline that lets people use Uber and Lyft without
> > > > needing a smartphone.
> > > > 
> > > > Uber and Lyft are available nationally; when you use
> > > > GoGoGrandparent, we'll
> > > > send you whichever one is cheapest at the time that you make
> > > > your request
> > > > for a ride. Their prices are typically up to 40 percent less
> > > > than the cost
> > > > of a cab.
> > > > 
> > > > Using GoGo is simple: callers call from a number they have
> > > > registered with
> > > > us and hear a menu of options. They can press 1 for a car to be
> > > > sent to pick
> > > > them up from their home, 2 for a car to be sent to pick them up where we
> > > > dropped them off last, or 0 to speak with an operator for a
> > > > custom pickup
> > > > location. Once the driver arrives, they tell the driver where
> > > > they want to
> > > > go. When you make a request, a car shows up at your door within fifteen
> > > > minutes, typically less.
> > > > 
> > > > To register free of charge, please call (855) 464-6872 or visit
> > > > <gogograndparent.com/register>.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   Vince
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