[Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a Smartphone

Jordan Gallacher jordanandseptember at gmail.com
Tue Apr 10 17:14:30 UTC 2018 

There is nothing in the ADA that requires us to disclose, and we should not
have to.  Plain and simple.
Jordan

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From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
Jude DaShiell via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 12:05 PM
To: Star Gazer via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a
Smartphone

If disclosure failures get uber into legal trouble as a result of another
passenger's allergy attack I expect Uber will make it a hard requirement in
its terms of service and get support from our legal system.

On Tue, 10 Apr 2018, Star Gazer via Electronics-Talk wrote:

> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 12:53:27
> From: Star Gazer via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>     <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Star Gazer <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a
>     Smartphone
>
> 				We shouldn't have to disclose it, though I
do understand why 
> people would, and why they wouldn't. I don't think that disclosure 
> should be a hard requirement though.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
> Of Jordan Gallacher via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 9:48 AM
> To: Ronald Smith <ronsmith131 at gmail.com>; Discussion of accessible 
> home electronics and appliances <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jordan Gallacher <jordanandseptember at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a 
> Smartphone
>
> Sorry no. We should not have to disclose that information.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 9, 2018, at 10:44 PM, Ronald Smith via Electronics-Talk
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I disagree with Tracy's position and a few others below!
>> I'm blind, but not a dog user.
>>
>> If a driver is indeed allergic to dogs, a blind person should have 
>> the
> curtosy to inform Uber or Lyft that they have a dog guide.
>> This may influence the size of vehicle if there are several people
> traveling with or without dogs and especially if one selects a pool trip.
>> You could have a pool passenger who is allergic to dogs as well. Now, 
>> I
> don't know how one would handle this sticky situation.
>> But 99&44 100% people on Uber I'm sure don't ride with dogs. So why
> penalize one driver who can pick up many more non dog users than dog
users?
>> To me, having a dog guide is like adding a second passenger or PCA
> equivalent, thus should be required to declare itwhen booking a trip 
> with above or even Access or train and air as well...
>>
>> Just my opinion.
>> ronsmith131 at gmail.com
>>
>> From: "cheez" <cheez at cox.net>
>> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 7:14 PM
>>
>> Long live the golden rule.
>> Wow!
>>
>> Vince
>>
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 6:44 AM
>>
>> I do not say I have a service dog when I call for Uber.  If someone 
>> is allergic, then they shouldn't be driving for the public.  Harsh?
>> Maybe, but it's excuse #1, and most of the time it's just that, an 
>> excuse
> not to do something.
>> Tracy
>>
>> On Behalf Of Carol Feazell via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 6:05 PM
>>
>> As a point of curiosity and personally not a service dog user, do you 
>> identify the fact that you have a dog when calling for a ride? I'm 
>> thinking that what if a person was legitimately allergic to dogs. I 
>> realize that this is not the reason most would not want them in their 
>> cars. Understand, I do appreciate anyone getting a raw deal with a 
>> dog and I personally am a doglover, just don't have a dog of any type 
>> currently. Still think of the ones from the past, however. Oh well, 
>> so much for that. Do take care and hope for good rides for all.
>>
>> Carol Jean
>>
>> From: Gerald Levy <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 3:55 PM
>>
>> Well, if this driver admitted directly to you that he was allergic to 
>> dogs, he wasn't very bright.  I suppose he could have given you a low 
>> rating instead to protect himself, and then you would have had no way 
>> of knowing why you were being denied service in the future.
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>> From: Mike via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 3:34 PM
>>
>> I just got a lyft driver permanently removed because he said he was
> allergic to dogs. It was very easy & all done with in 1 hour. They 
> even gave me  back the money I payed another driver to go home & gave me a
$5 credit.
> You can call Lyft at 503-503-1748.
>> Mike
>>
>> From: Andy Baracco  <wq6r at socal.rr.com>
>> Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 2:39 PM
>>
>> What you say can be true, but it also can be true for taxi and even 
>> paratransit drivers.  Uber and lyft do have policies in place 
>> regarding service animals, but that doesn't garantee that there won't 
>> be
> issues.
>> This is why it is important to be familiar with local, state, and 
>> Federal
> antidiscrimination laws, especially those that pertain to people with 
> disabilities and service animals.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 3:37 AM
>>
>> Keep in mind that Uber and Lift may not be available in all areas.  
>> In
> general, if you live in a large city and your neighborhood is not well 
> served by yellow taxi cabs, it is not likely to be served by these 
> ride-sharing services, either.  That's because Uber and Lift drivers 
> tend to concentrate where the cabs are, because that's where the business
is.
>> Taxi cabs tend to serve rich neighborhoods and avoid poor neighborhoods.
>> The same is true of Uber and Lift.  Another dirty little secret about 
>> these services that many consumers are not aware of is that drivers 
>> actually rate passengers, so that passengers that consistently 
>> receive negative ratings from drivers bmay not be able to book rides 
>> in the future.  So a blind passenger who travels with a guide dog may 
>> constantly receive negative ratings from drivers who dislike dogs 
>> riding in their vehicles.  To me, this is a blatant violation of 
>> privacy
> rights.
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>> From: Andy Baracco via Electronics-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 10:25 PM I believe that you set up 
>>>>> payment info when you sign up for Go Go. It is done with a credit 
>>>>> card, as Uber and Lyft drivers do not accept cash, even though I 
>>>>> believe that you can tip an Uber driver with cash.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Russillo via
> Electronics-Talk"
>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> To: "Drew Hunthausen via Electronics-Talk"
>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: "Michael Russillo" <plrussillo at comcast.net>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 6:57 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft 
>>>>> Without a Smartphone
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah, interesting. Good idea; I'm curious as to how one pays their 
>>>>>> driver; I understand with the smartphone app the rider sets up 
>>>>>> payment through PayPal or something so the Uber or Lyft driver 
>>>>>> can be paid; I'm curious if this'll work with this service, and 
>>>>>> how safe is it to give monetary info to Gogo if one goes through 
>>>>>> them to register? Meanwhile i'll take a gander at the site; 
>>>>>> thanks for that info; could be really helpful as I don't own any 
>>>>>> smartphone and I'm not of the tapping school, but old-school physical
buttons.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/5/2018 9:45 PM, Drew Hunthausen via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>>>>>>> So this service uses Uber and Lift drivers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Drew Hunthausen
>>>>>>> The No Excuses Blind Guy
>>>>>>> #1 Blind and Hearing Impaired Motivational Speaker, Triathlete, 
>>>>>>> & International Best Selling Author
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With an Attitude of Gratitude and no excuses, The Best Is Yet To
> Come!
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On 
>>>>>>> Behalf Of cheez via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 6:31 PM
>>>>>>> To: Electronic Talks <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: cheez <cheez at cox.net>
>>>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without 
>>>>>>> a Smartphone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> New Way to Use Uber and Lyft Without a Smartphone:
>>>>>>> GoGo is an automated hotline that lets people use Uber and Lyft 
>>>>>>> without needing a smartphone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Uber and Lyft are available nationally; when you use 
>>>>>>> GoGoGrandparent, we'll send you whichever one is cheapest at the 
>>>>>>> time that you make your request for a ride. Their prices are 
>>>>>>> typically up to 40 percent less than the cost of a cab.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Using GoGo is simple: callers call from a number they have 
>>>>>>> registered with us and hear a menu of options. They can press 1 
>>>>>>> for a car to be sent to pick them up from their home, 2 for a 
>>>>>>> car to be sent to pick them up where we dropped them off last, 
>>>>>>> or 0 to speak with an operator for a custom pickup location. 
>>>>>>> Once the driver arrives, they tell the driver where they want to 
>>>>>>> go. When you make a request, a car shows up at your door within 
>>>>>>> fifteen minutes, typically less.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To register free of charge, please call (855) 464-6872 or visit 
>>>>>>> <gogograndparent.com/register>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Vince
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