[Electronics-Talk] How many accessible pedestrian signals do you have in your city?

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Sun Jan 14 15:13:59 UTC 2018


Hi you make some good points here. I think, by the time these are resolved/agreed on, traffic lights will be obsolete. Have a good day.


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> On Jan 12, 2018, at 21:04, cheez via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> And most of the time it has to be more than a couple of dozens injured or killed before something is done.
> 
> Vince
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "lauren via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
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>> hi, sorry to say, sometimes they don’t install the devices until someone has been injured or killed.
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>>> On Jan 5, 2018, at 7:22 AM, Jim McCarthy via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have been reading this thread with some interest. It seems to me that much
>>> of the time, the answer will be like Mike has said here that there is some
>>> certain number in his area and he knows this because he asked for and got
>>> their installation. What I have not noticed in the thread is a reason for
>>> knowing how many there are. This is information a city transportation or
>>> traffic department probably has but I think the number a jurisdiction has
>>> does not matter very much. The trend of installation is more important to
>>> indicate progress in the installation. It still bothers me that many
>>> jurisdictions react as Fort Collins did for Mike, that is that they install
>>> them in areas that blind people frequent or only when a blind person or
>>> enough of us make the request. The result is that in many of the places
>>> these are installed, they do not offer actual assistance to blind travelers
>>> and in places where they would offer that help, they are not installed
>>> because there is not an entity expected to be frequented by people who are
>>> blind or because no requests have been made.    I suppose though that if the
>>> trigger for installation is that there has been a request, I am glad Fort
>>> Collins has responded as they have. In many instances, the answer is that
>>> they are expensive so we can't or won't install. To me the right approach is
>>> to have as a part of a long term transportation plan the goal of installing
>>> some number per year. It also strikes me as best to rank intersections based
>>> on criteria so that the really complicated ones receive the devices also.
>>> Jim McCarthy
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Mike Sedmak via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 5:25 PM
>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>> Cc: Mike Sedmak
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] How many accessible pedestrian signals do
>>> you have in your city?
>>> 
>>> We have five in my corner of Fort Collins, CO.  I called the city traffic
>>> operations engineer and asked him to install them on all the crossings I
>>> frequent.  I would recommend asking for them in your area if you like them.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Our city ops said they are relatively expensive, so they only install them
>>> when requested.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
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