[Electronics-Talk] How many accessible pedestrian signals do you have in your city?

[cheez]

And most of the time it has to be more than a couple of dozens injured or 
killed before something is done.

Vince

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you have in your city?


> hi, sorry to say, sometimes they don’t install the devices until someone 
> has been injured or killed.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 5, 2018, at 7:22 AM, Jim McCarthy via Electronics-Talk 
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I have been reading this thread with some interest. It seems to me that 
>> much
>> of the time, the answer will be like Mike has said here that there is 
>> some
>> certain number in his area and he knows this because he asked for and got
>> their installation. What I have not noticed in the thread is a reason for
>> knowing how many there are. This is information a city transportation or
>> traffic department probably has but I think the number a jurisdiction has
>> does not matter very much. The trend of installation is more important to
>> indicate progress in the installation. It still bothers me that many
>> jurisdictions react as Fort Collins did for Mike, that is that they 
>> install
>> them in areas that blind people frequent or only when a blind person or
>> enough of us make the request. The result is that in many of the places
>> these are installed, they do not offer actual assistance to blind 
>> travelers
>> and in places where they would offer that help, they are not installed
>> because there is not an entity expected to be frequented by people who 
>> are
>> blind or because no requests have been made.    I suppose though that if 
>> the
>> trigger for installation is that there has been a request, I am glad Fort
>> Collins has responded as they have. In many instances, the answer is that
>> they are expensive so we can't or won't install. To me the right approach 
>> is
>> to have as a part of a long term transportation plan the goal of 
>> installing
>> some number per year. It also strikes me as best to rank intersections 
>> based
>> on criteria so that the really complicated ones receive the devices also.
>> Jim McCarthy
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Sedmak via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 5:25 PM
>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>> Cc: Mike Sedmak
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] How many accessible pedestrian signals do
>> you have in your city?
>>
>> We have five in my corner of Fort Collins, CO.  I called the city traffic
>> operations engineer and asked him to install them on all the crossings I
>> frequent.  I would recommend asking for them in your area if you like 
>> them.
>>
>>
>> Our city ops said they are relatively expensive, so they only install 
>> them
>> when requested.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>
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