[Electronics-Talk] Accessible MP3 Player

[Andy Baracco]

There is a difference between accessibility and convenience.  Something can 
be both accessible and inconvenient.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Chaltain via Electronics-Talk" 
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To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances" 
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Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 6:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible MP3 Player


>I agree the term accessible can be open to interpretation in a wider 
>discussion, but in this context I don't find it ambiguous at all. We're on 
>a list talking about accessible electronics that can be used by the blind. 
>This interface is absolutely identical for both sighted and blind users, so 
>therefore it's just as accessible for a blind user as it is for a sighted 
>user. There's no ambiguity about that at all. If someone doesn't like the 
>idea of scrolling around tens of thousands of songs then they should just 
>get a different player but that doesn't make this player inaccessible.
>
>
>
> On 11/23/18 12:05 AM, Kyle Garcia via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>> I see. Then yeah, there was no misunderstanding, just that the 
>> description
>> Gerald originally provided didn't mention that the player he has is very
>> similar to an iPod shuffle without the shuffle.
>>
>> The term accessible is definitely different to everyone. To me it means
>> that the given product can perform the exact same functions to a blind or
>> sighted user. If it does some functions accessibly then I personally
>> consider it partially accessible.
>>
>> I'm honestly surprised people have messaged you about being a jerk. I
>> didn't follow the Spectrum Box thread since I don't have one or any
>> knowledge of how to use one, but I have not seen any rude comments here.
>>
>> Kyle
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 9:16 PM Christopher Gilland via Electronics-Talk 
>> <
>> electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Mr. Garcia wrote:
>>>
>>> with such a large library navigating it without a search feature
>>> sounds quite tedious.
>>> ---
>>> And, you would be 100% correct! This is precisely the reason that I
>>> stated my doubt on the term accessible. I guess, at the end of the day,
>>> that term's really subjective. For those with smaller libraries, maybe
>>> 50 to 100 songs, it may work, but for someone who is an audio freak like
>>> myself who not only loves listening to audio, but is a certified audio
>>> engineer for a living, yeah... Just for the record, I actually don't
>>> know where you are coming up with the comment of me maybe addressing the
>>> wrong person. I was referring to Gerald, who said there was an
>>> accessible player on Ebay for only a buck. That's the player I was
>>> talking about with accessibility.
>>>
>>> On a final note, a few have written me off list, who's names will be
>>> left unmentioned, who specifically have told me to stop being so
>>> egotystical, and quit being such a rude jerk on list.
>>>
>>> How'm I being a jerk! I helped like crazy with the Spectrum box thread,
>>> even going so far as to retype the remote description if it was needed,
>>> now, all I'm doing is asking a valid question of how this mp3 player is
>>> being defined as accessible. That's not meant to challenge people. I'm
>>> just trying to better understand. Give this poor guy a break! Enough 
>>> said.
>>>
>>> Chris.
>>>
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