[Electronics-Talk] FW: [GTTsupport] Sobeys unveils Canada's 1st smart grocery cart, promising a 'frictionless' Shopping experience

Wed Oct 30 01:08:06 UTC 2019

Obviously there's something to this, but the problem is that we're 
talking about too many jobs and not just about so called menial labor 
jobs. This isn't like a few decades ago when manufacturing jobs were 
being lost to automation and those workers could be retrained and placed 
into other more rewarding jobs. The jobs being lost now due to AI are 
those same jobs that people were moving into a few decades ago and 
customer service roles which always seemed safe from automation. Here's 
just one article talking about the situation 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/cognitiveworld/2018/08/07/job-loss-from-ai-theres-more-to-fear/

Of course there are other articles that claim for every job AI replaces 
another job working in AI will be created, but I scratch my head over 
this one a bit. Here's such an article 
https://singularityhub.com/2019/01/01/ai-will-create-millions-more-jobs-than-it-will-destroy-heres-how/

On 10/28/19 5:05 PM, Ben Fulton via Electronics-Talk wrote:
> I know this might be a little off topic but when technology like this starts replacing menial labour positions, that aren't terribly high paid or desirable positions in the first place, we need to start looking at ways of improving our social technology in ways that keep up with the pace of our information and other technologies. Working with people to advance their potential and getting them working in more rewarding fields is where we need to stay focused. Most people would rather have a better job than ringing groceries through a till. We need to develop people's potential so that rather than resisting progress we are working towards creating a better community where the employment opportunities that exist are rewarding and result in higher productivity and societal improvement. As long as this technology is accessible to everyone and it works well I support it. I would like to see Sobeys working with their employees to find the alternative jobs they could be doing, and that is what thay are talking about. The could engage in some restructuring and have more time to devote to design and overall customer experience.
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>   Ben
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> Sounds great theoretically.
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>> On Oct 25, 2019, at 07:04, Pamela Dominguez via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> ?I bet you dollars to doughnuts that it's not!  And I also don't believe that this automated stuff won't cut employees, like they insist.  Pam.
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>> -----Original Message----- From: Eric Calhoun via Electronics-Talk
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>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] FW: [GTTsupport] Sobeys unveils Canada's
>> 1st smart grocery cart, promising a 'frictionless' shopping experience
>>
>>
>>
>> Original Message:
>> From: "Albert Ruel" <albertruel at gmail.com>
>> To: GTTsupport at groups.io
>> Subject: [GTTsupport] Sobeys unveils Canada's 1st smart grocery cart,
>> promising a 'frictionless' shopping experience
>> Date:
>> Wed, 23 Oct 2019 21:01:48 -0700
>>
>> Well, I wonder if the ACA will ensure that this new system will be
>> accessible?
>>
>> Sobeys unveils Canada's 1st smart grocery cart, promising a
>> 'frictionless'
>> shopping experience
>>
>>
>>
>> The high-tech devices allow customers to shop, weigh and pay for their
>> food
>>
>>
>>
>> Nick Boisvert
>>
>> CBC News, Oct. 23, 2019 5:42 PM ET | Last Updated: 3 hours ago
>>
>>
>>
>> The humble shopping cart, long known for squeaky wheels and uneven
>> steering, is undergoing a high-tech makeover at a suburban grocery
>> store west of Toronto.
>>
>> Grocery giant Sobeys Inc. unveiled what it calls Canada's first ever
>> "smart"
>> shopping cart at its store in Oakville, Ont., on Wednesday.
>>
>>
>>
>> The carts feature multiple cameras, a scanner, scale and payment system.
>> A
>> touchscreen just above the push bar displays on-board items and
>> in-store promotions.
>>
>> Sobeys executive Mathieu Lacoursiere said the new devices are more
>> than a gimmick, and that they'll make the traditional checkout
>> experience "frictionless and seamless for our customers.
>>
>> "Think about the shopping cart; it hasn't changed for dozens if not
>> hundreds of years," he added.
>>
>> The store in Oakville's Glen Abbey neighbourhood will roll out 10 of
>> the new smart carts as part of a pilot project. They'll be available
>> to customers in mid-November following a staff training period.
>>
>> Sobeys owns or franchises more than 1,500 grocery stores across
>> Canada, including those under the Safeway, IGA, FreshCo, Foodland and
>> Thrifty Foods banners. The company has not yet revealed plans to
>> expand the smart cart program.
>>
>> How it works
>>
>> The carts - easily distinguished by Sobeys branding and white plastic
>> fairings - are slightly smaller than their analog predecessors, but
>> significantly more capable.
>>
>> For items with a barcode, a customer simply scans the code and drops
>> the item inside the cart.
>>
>> Produce and bulk items priced according to weight can similarly be
>> tossed inside the cart, where a scale that runs under the length of
>> the basket calculates a price. It resets after each item is added.
>>
>> Customer Stuart Eddy said he was impressed after adding a bag of bulk
>> almonds to a smart cart that was already full of groceries. He said
>> the interface was intuitive and fast.
>>
>> "It's better than the self-checkout," he said with some surprise.
>> "It's fantastic."
>>
>> Software updates expected within the next year will allow the cart to
>> recognize items via basket-facing cameras, meaning customers won't
>> have to scan them.
>>
>> Caper, the New York-based company that manufactures the carts, says
>> the devices will also use artificial intelligence and machine learning
>> to recommend ingredients for specific recipes and complementary items.
>>
>> For example, Caper co-founder Ahmed Beshry said a customer could add a
>> pack of spaghetti to the cart, at which point the screen might suggest
>> a pasta sauce to go with it.
>>
>> The goal, he said, is to create "the perfect shopper experience."
>>
>> 'A step further' than the competition
>>
>> The Sobeys smart carts are rolling out as major retailers across North
>> American are competing to improve the traditional checkout experience.
>>
>> Last year, Amazon opened its first checkout-free grocery store in
>> Seattle, which uses an array of cameras to track what shoppers remove
>> from shelves as they move through the store. Shoppers are billed after
>> leaving the store with credit cards already on file.
>>
>> Beshry said the Sobeys smart carts go "a step further" than the Amazon
>> system, since the carts will be able to recommend food and locate
>> items within the store.
>>
>> "We can actually interact with the customer as they're shopping," he
>> told CBC Toronto.
>>
>> In Canada, self-checkout kiosks have also become the norm in many
>> grocery and drug stores, though some customers have expressed
>> frustration at increasing retail automation and the threat of job losses.
>>
>> Sobeys says 'it's not about cutting' jobs
>>
>> Sobeys insists the smart carts are not intended to permanently
>> displace human workers. Instead, the company says the technology will
>> allow employees to spend more time interacting with customers.
>>
>> "We're actually able to free up some employees . to be on the floor
>> answering customers, talking about the food, helping them choose a
>> recipe or a product," Lacoursiere said.
>>
>> "It's not about cutting."
>>
>> But some Sobeys customers have doubts, and envision a future shopping
>> experience with fewer human workers around.
>>
>> "It probably would take away jobs, and it's really sad," said Maria
>> Balay, who avoids the store's existing self-checkout kiosks.
>>
>> Her husband said he, too, enjoys talking to staff at the store, but he
>> was nonetheless impressed by the cart.
>>
>> "I'll have to try it a few times," he said. "And if I like it, I'll
>> definitely use it."
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/sobeys-smart-grocery-cart-1.533
>> 2658?c
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>> mp=newsletter-news-digests-toronto
>>
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