[Electronics-Talk] Warning about using Aira!

[Pamela Dominguez]

That makes sense.  They don't want to be held liable for anything.  Pam.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Sarah Massengale via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 10:43 AM
To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
Cc: Sarah Massengale
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Warning about using Aira!

As I understand it, and I could be wrong, Aira still is not supposed to tell 
you when to cross the street.  They will point out landmarks around you as 
you cross, or tell you how cars are moving.  They will not, however, tell 
you when to cross.  You also have to option to tell them that you still wish 
silence, as was their old policy, when you’re crossing streets.


> On Jan 5, 2020, at 10:19 AM, Lori Motis via Electronics-Talk 
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> yes, I agree whole heartedly. I also know that when I signed up for their 
> services I had to agree that I would not use them or count on them for any 
> mobility skills especially crossing the street. We should only use other 
> services to assist us with vision but it is up to us to know when it is 
> safe to cross a street or not.
> Lori
>
>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Jenny Perdue via Electronics-Talk 
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Aira is not a substitute for your own mobility skills. It was never 
>> meant to be that.
>>
>> If you have issues crossing the street, anyone, including me. It is not 
>> Iris responsibility to make sure your mobility skills are right. If you’re 
>> not coming trouble crossing the street, don’t. Aira or not.
>>
>> Jenny
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>> On Dec 21, 2019, at 10:45 PM, David Andrews via Electronics-Talk 
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Personally I don't think you should be using Aira this way.  Initially 
>>>> they wouldn't do that kind of thing, I guess they have changed -- and I 
>>>> think it is dangerous. They have no control over where you are 
>>>> looking,so it would be easy to miss something, nor not be able to see 
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> At 06:25 AM 12/21/2019, you wrote:
>>>> Warning about using Aira & street crossing!
>>>>
>>>> I have been using Aira for over 1 year now. Sometimes an Aira agent can 
>>>> see
>>>> the walk signal & sometimes not. When they cannot the agent tells me & 
>>>> then
>>>> I point the camera at the traffic signal & not the walk signal. This 
>>>> was
>>>> working!
>>>>
>>>> Not this time. The Aira agent said I had the walk signal. I heard no 
>>>> moving
>>>> traffic. So, I put 1 foot out in the street & wiz a car went across my 
>>>> path
>>>> 2 lanes away. I pulled my foot back & to more cars went right where my 
>>>> foot
>>>> was!
>>>>
>>>> Obviously that Aira agent could not see the walk signal. Bad 
>>>> information is
>>>> worse than no information.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I did report that to Aira. Because I could have died, I just 
>>>> wanted you
>>>> to know for your safety. Sometimes I cannot tell if I have the walk 
>>>> signal
>>>> because of noises or a lack of traffic flow.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>
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