[Electronics-Talk] Warning about using Aira!

[Andy Baracco]

I believe that they will tell you the status of a traffic light.

Andy

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From: "Sarah Massengale via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
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Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Warning about using Aira!


> As I understand it, and I could be wrong, Aira still is not supposed to 
> tell you when to cross the street.  They will point out landmarks around 
> you as you cross, or tell you how cars are moving.  They will not, 
> however, tell you when to cross.  You also have to option to tell them 
> that you still wish silence, as was their old policy, when you’re crossing 
> streets.
>
>
>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 10:19 AM, Lori Motis via Electronics-Talk 
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> yes, I agree whole heartedly. I also know that when I signed up for their 
>> services I had to agree that I would not use them or count on them for 
>> any mobility skills especially crossing the street. We should only use 
>> other services to assist us with vision but it is up to us to know when 
>> it is safe to cross a street or not.
>> Lori
>>
>>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Jenny Perdue via Electronics-Talk 
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Aira is not a substitute for your own mobility skills. It was never 
>>> meant to be that.
>>>
>>> If you have issues crossing the street, anyone, including me. It is not 
>>> Iris responsibility to make sure your mobility skills are right. If you’re 
>>> not coming trouble crossing the street, don’t. Aira or not.
>>>
>>> Jenny
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>>> On Dec 21, 2019, at 10:45 PM, David Andrews via Electronics-Talk 
>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally I don't think you should be using Aira this way. 
>>>>> Initially they wouldn't do that kind of thing, I guess they have 
>>>>> changed -- and I think it is dangerous. They have no control over 
>>>>> where you are looking,so it would be easy to miss something, nor not 
>>>>> be able to see it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> At 06:25 AM 12/21/2019, you wrote:
>>>>> Warning about using Aira & street crossing!
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been using Aira for over 1 year now. Sometimes an Aira agent 
>>>>> can see
>>>>> the walk signal & sometimes not. When they cannot the agent tells me & 
>>>>> then
>>>>> I point the camera at the traffic signal & not the walk signal. This 
>>>>> was
>>>>> working!
>>>>>
>>>>> Not this time. The Aira agent said I had the walk signal. I heard no 
>>>>> moving
>>>>> traffic. So, I put 1 foot out in the street & wiz a car went across my 
>>>>> path
>>>>> 2 lanes away. I pulled my foot back & to more cars went right where my 
>>>>> foot
>>>>> was!
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously that Aira agent could not see the walk signal. Bad 
>>>>> information is
>>>>> worse than no information.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I did report that to Aira. Because I could have died, I just 
>>>>> wanted you
>>>>> to know for your safety. Sometimes I cannot tell if I have the walk 
>>>>> signal
>>>>> because of noises or a lack of traffic flow.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
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