[Electronics-Talk] Warning about using Aira!

[Mike]

As a totally blind person I have crossed thousands of streets in many city's! And my opinion is no blind person can  know 100% of the time when is the right time to leave right at the beginning of a walk cycle! Sometimes there is to many things going on in an intersection. My favorite is a driver running a red light making me think I now have the walk signal! A Aira agent is not supposed to guess if he can see that walk signal, mine did. That is what I wanted everyone to know.
Mike  

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From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Lori Motis via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 10:19 AM
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Cc: Lori Motis <ljm2561 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Warning about using Aira!

yes, I agree whole heartedly. I also know that when I signed up for their services I had to agree that I would not use them or count on them for any mobility skills especially crossing the street. We should only use other services to assist us with vision but it is up to us to know when it is safe to cross a street or not.
Lori

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Jenny Perdue via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Aira is not a substitute for your own mobility skills. It was never meant to be that.
> 
> If you have issues crossing the street, anyone, including me. It is not Iris responsibility to make sure your mobility skills are right. If you’re not coming trouble crossing the street, don’t. Aira or not.
> 
> Jenny
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Dec 21, 2019, at 10:45 PM, David Andrews via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Personally I don't think you should be using Aira this way.  Initially they wouldn't do that kind of thing, I guess they have changed -- and I think it is dangerous. They have no control over where you are looking,so it would be easy to miss something, nor not be able to see it.
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> At 06:25 AM 12/21/2019, you wrote:
>>> Warning about using Aira & street crossing!
>>> 
>>> I have been using Aira for over 1 year now. Sometimes an Aira agent can see
>>> the walk signal & sometimes not. When they cannot the agent tells me & then
>>> I point the camera at the traffic signal & not the walk signal. This was
>>> working!
>>> 
>>> Not this time. The Aira agent said I had the walk signal. I heard no moving
>>> traffic. So, I put 1 foot out in the street & wiz a car went across my path
>>> 2 lanes away. I pulled my foot back & to more cars went right where my foot
>>> was!
>>> 
>>> Obviously that Aira agent could not see the walk signal. Bad information is
>>> worse than no information.
>>> 
>>> Yes, I did report that to Aira. Because I could have died, I just wanted you
>>> to know for your safety. Sometimes I cannot tell if I have the walk signal
>>> because of noises or a lack of traffic flow.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mike
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