[Electronics-Talk] Warning about using Aira!

[Stacie Gallegos (NFB)]

Hi all. Aira recently changed the street-crossing policy. Now, if you 
request it, you can have the agent give you small clues if you are 
veering while crossing. If you request it, the agent can tell you the 
status of the light.



Stacie Gallegos
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On 1/5/2020 7:54 PM, Andy Baracco via Electronics-Talk wrote:
> I believe that they will tell you the status of a traffic light.
> 
> Andy
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Massengale via 
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> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Warning about using Aira!
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>> As I understand it, and I could be wrong, Aira still is not supposed 
>> to tell you when to cross the street.  They will point out landmarks 
>> around you as you cross, or tell you how cars are moving.  They will 
>> not, however, tell you when to cross.  You also have to option to tell 
>> them that you still wish silence, as was their old policy, when you’re 
>> crossing streets.
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 10:19 AM, Lori Motis via Electronics-Talk 
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> yes, I agree whole heartedly. I also know that when I signed up for 
>>> their services I had to agree that I would not use them or count on 
>>> them for any mobility skills especially crossing the street. We 
>>> should only use other services to assist us with vision but it is up 
>>> to us to know when it is safe to cross a street or not.
>>> Lori
>>>
>>>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Jenny Perdue via Electronics-Talk 
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Aira is not a substitute for your own mobility skills. It was never 
>>>> meant to be that.
>>>>
>>>> If you have issues crossing the street, anyone, including me. It is 
>>>> not Iris responsibility to make sure your mobility skills are right. 
>>>> If you’re not coming trouble crossing the street, don’t. Aira or not.
>>>>
>>>> Jenny
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2019, at 10:45 PM, David Andrews via Electronics-Talk 
>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Personally I don't think you should be using Aira this way. 
>>>>>> Initially they wouldn't do that kind of thing, I guess they have 
>>>>>> changed -- and I think it is dangerous. They have no control over 
>>>>>> where you are looking,so it would be easy to miss something, nor 
>>>>>> not be able to see it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 06:25 AM 12/21/2019, you wrote:
>>>>>> Warning about using Aira & street crossing!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been using Aira for over 1 year now. Sometimes an Aira 
>>>>>> agent can see
>>>>>> the walk signal & sometimes not. When they cannot the agent tells 
>>>>>> me & then
>>>>>> I point the camera at the traffic signal & not the walk signal. 
>>>>>> This was
>>>>>> working!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not this time. The Aira agent said I had the walk signal. I heard 
>>>>>> no moving
>>>>>> traffic. So, I put 1 foot out in the street & wiz a car went 
>>>>>> across my path
>>>>>> 2 lanes away. I pulled my foot back & to more cars went right 
>>>>>> where my foot
>>>>>> was!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obviously that Aira agent could not see the walk signal. Bad 
>>>>>> information is
>>>>>> worse than no information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I did report that to Aira. Because I could have died, I just 
>>>>>> wanted you
>>>>>> to know for your safety. Sometimes I cannot tell if I have the 
>>>>>> walk signal
>>>>>> because of noises or a lack of traffic flow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
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