[Electronics-Talk] Warning about using Aira!

Tue Jan 7 15:22:56 UTC 2020

I've never crossed a street that has that many lanes!  Pam.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jenny Perdue via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 4:18 AM
To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
Cc: Jenny Perdue
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Warning about using Aira!

Wow, you are much braver than me :-) maybe when I was younger and had a 
little bit more site. Now, no way.

That is totally awesome that you can do that. I just like the fact that they 
can tell you if you are veering. That’s worth the money right there.

Jenny

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> On Jan 6, 2020, at 6:44 PM, David Diamond via Electronics-Talk 
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> I have crossed a street in Flushing New York.  It was I would guess a 16 
> lane crossing.  All I know was it was close to the JFK airport.  There is 
> no way I would trust someone using my iPhone camera to guide me across the 
> street.
>
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> Mike via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 1:50:34 AM
> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances' 
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> Cc: Mike <m6795556 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Warning about using Aira!
>
> As a totally blind person I have crossed thousands of streets in many 
> city's! And my opinion is no blind person can  know 100% of the time when 
> is the right time to leave right at the beginning of a walk cycle! 
> Sometimes there is to many things going on in an intersection. My favorite 
> is a driver running a red light making me think I now have the walk 
> signal! A Aira agent is not supposed to guess if he can see that walk 
> signal, mine did. That is what I wanted everyone to know.
> Mike
>
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> Lori Motis via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 10:19 AM
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> Cc: Lori Motis <ljm2561 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Warning about using Aira!
>
> yes, I agree whole heartedly. I also know that when I signed up for their 
> services I had to agree that I would not use them or count on them for any 
> mobility skills especially crossing the street. We should only use other 
> services to assist us with vision but it is up to us to know when it is 
> safe to cross a street or not.
> Lori
>
>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Jenny Perdue via Electronics-Talk 
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Aira is not a substitute for your own mobility skills. It was never 
>> meant to be that.
>>
>> If you have issues crossing the street, anyone, including me. It is not 
>> Iris responsibility to make sure your mobility skills are right. If you’re 
>> not coming trouble crossing the street, don’t. Aira or not.
>>
>> Jenny
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>>> On Dec 21, 2019, at 10:45 PM, David Andrews via Electronics-Talk 
>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally I don't think you should be using Aira this way. 
>>>>> Initially they wouldn't do that kind of thing, I guess they have 
>>>>> changed -- and I think it is dangerous. They have no control over 
>>>>> where you are looking,so it would be easy to miss something, nor not 
>>>>> be able to see it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> At 06:25 AM 12/21/2019, you wrote:
>>>>> Warning about using Aira & street crossing!
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been using Aira for over 1 year now. Sometimes an Aira agent 
>>>>> can see
>>>>> the walk signal & sometimes not. When they cannot the agent tells me & 
>>>>> then
>>>>> I point the camera at the traffic signal & not the walk signal. This 
>>>>> was
>>>>> working!
>>>>>
>>>>> Not this time. The Aira agent said I had the walk signal. I heard no 
>>>>> moving
>>>>> traffic. So, I put 1 foot out in the street & wiz a car went across my 
>>>>> path
>>>>> 2 lanes away. I pulled my foot back & to more cars went right where my 
>>>>> foot
>>>>> was!
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously that Aira agent could not see the walk signal. Bad 
>>>>> information is
>>>>> worse than no information.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I did report that to Aira. Because I could have died, I just 
>>>>> wanted you
>>>>> to know for your safety. Sometimes I cannot tell if I have the walk 
>>>>> signal
>>>>> because of noises or a lack of traffic flow.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
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