[Electronics-Talk] Adding an External Indoor Antenna to a Toshiba Fire TV Model [TV radios]

cheez at cox.net cheez at cox.net
Sun May 9 04:25:02 UTC 2021 

I saw on the C Crane website the other day, they have portable radios that
have am/fm and weather and TV bands.
Now I don't know if the TV band works or not.  One would have to call them
and ask.


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Arlene via Electronics-Talk
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Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Adding an External Indoor Antenna to a
Toshiba Fire TV Model

I loved my little tv radios and still have some tv radios that no longer get
anything. I felt really sad about that when things were changed with the tv
channels.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tina Sohl via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances" 
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Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2021 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Adding an External Indoor Antenna to a
Toshiba Fire TV Model


> And the little radios that used to get tv channels no longer work 
> either. I loved mine.
>
> On 5/8/21, Amanda Lee via Electronics-Talk 
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>> Oh I understand!  I really will always regretit that the FCC allowed 
>> this change to move TV out of a more accessible frequency band.  One 
>> can no longer rely upon local tV during a power outage because if 
>> cable or FIOS are offline or you have no power, even with the small 
>> portable TVs available, you end up with the same reception issues.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On 
>> Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 5:50 PM
>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances 
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at outlook.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Adding an External Indoor Antenna to 
>> a Toshiba Fire TV Model
>>
>> Amanda,
>>
>> No offense or insult was meant by me.  I live in a house that is of 
>> wood construction in the Twin Cities.  My daughter had an HD TV with 
>> an external in-door antenna, and one of our local channels which was 
>> perhaps fifteen miles away, could only be received when I held the 
>> antenna up by the ceiling of her room on the second floor.  She had 
>> two windows that faced the direction from which the signal came.  If 
>> I put the antenna on the top of the dresser, the signal on that 
>> channel was gone.  I have no idea why the reception in that case was 
>> so tricky, and it dulled my enthusiasm a bit so your experience does 
>> not surprise me.  In my case, we didn't pursue it and perhaps a more 
>> sophisticated antenna would have done better.  I worked with another 
>> guy who put in an amplified antenna in his attic and he also never 
>> was able receive all of our local channels until he adjusted the 
>> level of this antenna amplifier.  He needed some amplification, but 
>> full amplification overloaded the amplifier resulting in less signal.  
>> I don't know if he ever got it working.  <smile>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve Jacobson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On 
>> Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 9:19 AM
>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Amanda Lee <amandainparadise777 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Adding an External Indoor Antenna to 
>> a Toshiba Fire TV Model
>>
>> Oh I totally agree! It's just a higher gain effect so the range is 
>> perhaps there's some advantage.  I merely stated the description from 
>> the manufacturer and not what I expected.  My point being too that 
>> the two network affiliates are local to Washington, DC and not in 
>> Baltimore which is over 40 miles away from my home so I found it a 
>> bit disconcerting with the antenna flat on the window that although I 
>> scanned  three or four different times so far with different 
>> configurations and antenna positions, the result wasn't that 
>> different.
>>
>> Ok, I'll not discuss this topic anymore unless necessary.
>>
>> Thanks for the input, everyone.
>>
>> Amanda
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On 
>> Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 9:51 AM
>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances 
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at outlook.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Adding an External Indoor Antenna to 
>> a Toshiba Fire TV Model
>>
>> Amanda,
>>
>> I don't see how an in-door antenna could have claimed a range of 200 
>> miles even during the old analog days.  Receiving the newer HD 
>> channels is more complicated.  Sometimes VHF channels are paired with 
>> UHF channels, for example.  What I have found is that antenna 
>> placement can make quite a difference.  Unfortunately, if you move 
>> your antenna, you may need to have your TV search for channels again.  
>> Also, because of the UHF component, your building may block channels 
>> from certain directions eve though you are geographically close to 
>> them.
>>
>> Each of the old channels can now carry multiple programs, though, so 
>> the number of channels that one can receive is effectively much 
>> higher, but sometimes you just can't receive a channel that you 
>> should be able to receive.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve Jacobson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On 
>> Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 5:08 PM
>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Amanda Lee <amandainparadise777 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Adding an External Indoor Antenna to 
>> a Toshiba Fire TV Model
>>
>> I forgot to mention that I  did find between 33 to 35 channels.  Now 
>> of course this is good!  However, sadly, it did not find the CBS or 
>> ABC Network affiliates.  It did find some interesting channels though 
>> which would make the cord cut worthwhile as I like Movies and there's 
>> a World Channel and was surprised to find Court TV and a few others.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Amanda
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On 
>> Behalf Of Rob Kaiser via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 5:20 PM
>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Rob Kaiser <rcubfank at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Adding an External Indoor Antenna to 
>> a Toshiba Fire TV Model
>>
>> I don't know anything about the antenna you got, but I tried to cut 
>> the cord a few years ago & tried to go with an antenna, &, I got a 
>> wopping 3 channels. I live in the high desert of Southern California.
>>
>> Rob Kaiser email;
>> rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>> On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 1:51 PM
>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Amanda Lee <amandainparadise777 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Adding an External Indoor Antenna to a 
>> Toshiba Fire TV Model
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> I just subscribed to this list so if this is an old topic, please 
>> pardon a repeat question or issue!
>>
>>
>>
>> I really would like to cut the CableTV cord and save about $100  worth of
>> cable TV costs per month where there's only a few channels that interest 
>> me
>> and some of which  I can find from other sources.
>>
>>
>>
>> I ordered an amplified antenna.  Unfortunately, the model I ordered 
>> doesn't
>> have a switch that I can readily find on the amplifier to take it out of
>> the
>> circuit.  So I scanned with the amplifier in-line and then I manually
>> removed the amplifier and scanned again with no real difference.
>>
>>
>>
>> I purchased this indoor TV antenna from Amazon for around $20 after a
>> discount.  It is the
>>
>> TV Antenna - Latest Amplified HD Digital Indoor Antenna Long 200 Miles
>> Range
>> HDTV Antenna - 17ft Coax Cable Indoor Antenna for 4K Local Channels -
>> Support from  All Television
>>
>> 4.9 out of 5 stars    14 ratings
>>
>>
>>
>> The antenna is a current year model for indoor use and claims to have a
>> chip
>> to filter out what I'd refer to as intermod from FM and other RF signals.
>> Since I live in Northern Virginia which is a very hot area in terms of 
>> much
>> in the way of active Radio Frequency transmissions from everything
>> imaginable, reception is challenging without an external antenna. 
>> However,
>> I am restricted by Condo Association rules as to what I can place 
>> outdoors
>> and attached to my town home  or yes, I would prefer an outdoor antenna.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have had a couple of other TVs in the past 10 or so years which had
>> seemingly better reception and these were digital TVs as well so I'm
>> curious
>> if anyone has observed reception issues with the Toshiba FireTV models?
>>
>>
>>
>> I am also curious to know what others have experienced with adding an
>> external indoor antenna to the Toshiba Fire TV and if there's any
>> recommendations?  If this is too off topic, please email me offline.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Amanda
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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