[Electronics-Talk] Modern land line services

Tue Jun 21 00:00:21 UTC 2022

I absolutely agree!  You will pay a small fee to Magic Jack each year to assure that they have made arrangements with your local area 911 service.

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From: Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tom Evans via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 3:14 PM
To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Tom Evans <tevans2003 at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Modern land line services

Small little add on I would think that the 911 service for locating you is still better with the landline as many of these call centers have still not gotten up-to-date with the GPS for cell phone and location

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> On Jun 19, 2022, at 8:28 PM, Aaron Spears via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> We've experienced multiple copper wire landline service outages. I do believe it to be the most reliable, but I don't think that reliability is worth the extra $40 or so that it would cost for that versus a voice over internet protocol system. We have it here because if we cancel it Frontier disables the second line making our bonded twisted pair dual line ADSL2+ connection which is supposed to be 24mbit down and 2mbit up but is actually 26mbit down and 1.7mbit up become 12mbit down and 0.8mbit up. They do this without telling you they will do it, and they will not let you turn it back on even if you sign up for phone service again. They did it to me and then promptly did the same thing to a friend in Michigan whom I begged not to try it and he didn't listen. Sucks to be him. I got it back because we wouldn't quit calling and asking for it. Took about 3 months but we had the Attorney general involved and a lady called and assured us she would have them come out and fix it. They finally did. At which point our entire phone system was completely destroyed by a horrible Electric Storm that took out everyone's modems in the area and many electric boxes, killed my computer that was plugged into the modem, etc etc. Since then I have never got the full 2.2mbit uplink that it used to be it is now only 1.7mbit and that's after repeated calls for them to come out and look into making it more reliable. With dsl it's the uplink that becomes a pain in the butt not the downlink.
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> About losing power, that only means anything if you have a phone service that uses batteries. Ours does but sometimes we lose the landline completely when power goes out. No dial tones even on the cordless phone and yes the cordless phone base has power. We have multiple generators.
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> Some cordless phones, especially a couple of options from Panasonic, can draw power out of what ever handset is on the base to run the whole system. It's nice because if the outage is extended, just swap the handset for another one to keep the cordless phone system online albeit with one less phone, and it only makes sense to do that if you have more than one cordless handset with it. Otherwise, you need a generator or some kind of uninterruptable power supply to keep the base powered. Once you have that, it becomes just about as likely that you won't lose voiceover internet protocol connectivity, because generator/UPS keeps the modem running. This is what we do and we fairly regularly weather power outages without even the slightest dip in our dsl internet connection, which means our cell phones still work with WiFi calling, a good thing as we don't actually have usable cell signal in the area.
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> That said we've had no dsl connectivity and neither has many other frontier users in a several state wide area for the past week. I'm connected using hotspot on my phone, but it's like pulling teeth to get the phone to connect with a good enough signal to get the hotspot to stay on. I discovered it sort of works leaning against the wall about a foot up from the bottom of my bed. Moving it a couple of inches makes it lose everything and it might take more than an hour to convince it to work again.
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> To be able to use just the landline power you need a wall phone that does not have a separate power supply than what it gets from the single telephone cord itself.
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> Cheers:
> Aaron Spears, AKA Valiant8086 General Partner at Valiant Galaxy 
> Associates "we make (VERY GOOD AUDIOGAMES) for the blind comunity" 
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>> On 6/19/2022 4:19 PM, Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk wrote:
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>> Spectrum phone service, like all phone service provided by cable companies, is VOIP, regardless of whether it is connected to a modem or some other device. This means that if there is a power outage, you will lose your phone service.  A friend of mine who has Spectrum phone service lost her phone service for ten days two months ago due to an outage that their brain dead techicians took forever to repair and had to rely on her cell phone. The only truly reliable phone service is provided by good old-fashion copper wire networks.  Thank goodness, Verizon, another company plagued by stupidity and mismanagement, has been prohibited from discontinuing my copper wire landline service because my landlord, who has a sweetheart deal with Spectrum that dates back 50 years, will not let Verizon wire my apartment building for FIOS.  In 70 years,I have only experienced one outage with my copper wire land line service. But I am stuck with Spectrumm for my cable TV and Internet service because they have an absolute monopoly in my area, and I have to pay $200 a month, or else go without cable TV and Internet service, plus another $35 a month for my Verizon copper wire service. If I wanted to switch to Spectrum VOIP phone service and lower my monthly bill by bundling all three services, I would not be able to use my existing phone jacks throughout my apartment because Spectrum would be barred from accessing the main phone junction box, which is the property of Verizon,  to shut off the low voltage current that would still flow through the old phone lines to the jacks. Because I am hearing impaired, using cordless phones throughout my large apartment instead of wired phones which provide superior amplification would not be a practical option.
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>>> On 6/19/2022 3:36 PM, Peter via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>>> Hello Tony and everyone,
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>>>     I think these folks are looking for traditional land line 
>>> service that does not require the use of a modem. We have our phone 
>>> service through Spectrom and it works well. If you buy multiple 
>>> phones and place them in each area where you want them this is just 
>>> as good as old-time phone service from Maa Bell. Welcome to the new millennium.
>>> 
>>> Peter Donahue
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>>> From: Electronics-Talk<electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org>  On 
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>>> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 2:20 PM
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>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Modern land line services
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>>> Hi Cox cable has a land line service and the phone connects 
>>> directorly into the modem.
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>>> We have cox phone and if you get the phone to sometimes the cable 
>>> service can put you into a bundle.
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