[Faith-talk] Here's a Possibility

Thu Nov 6 21:49:45 UTC 2008

A programmed Christian is some one who only knows their pet Scriptures and 
hasn't spent any time reading their Bible through and through so that when 
it's time to argue with some body, they just recite their pet Scriptures.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan Wheeler" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Here's a Possibility

> Define "programmed" Christian for me, please.
>
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> +-+-+-
>
>   There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, 
> who don't walk according to the flesh,
> but according to the Spirit. Romans 8:1
> ~~~
>
> Alan D Wheeler
> awheeler at neb.rr.com
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Julie C. Vogt" <jcvogt at pressenter.com>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Here's a Possibility
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>> It happened quite a while ago.  You may not have remembered.  I think I 
>> made
>> a good few points but if you're a programmed Christian it probably got 
>> past
>> you.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Alan Wheeler" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Here's a Possibility
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>>
>>> What is the point of this message?  I don't remember anyone being run 
>>> off
>>> this list.  I also wouldn't call the Christians on this list "bible
>>> thumpers" as that is an unfair and biased generalization.
>>>
>>>
>>> +-+-+-
>>>
>>>   There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ 
>>> Jesus,
>>> who don't walk according to the flesh,
>>> but according to the Spirit. Romans 8:1
>>> ~~~
>>>
>>> Alan D Wheeler
>>> awheeler at neb.rr.com
>>> IM me at: outlaw-cowboy at live.com
>>> Skype: redwheel1
>>> Check me out on the Q, Fridays from 10 AM to 1 PM eastern time at
>>> www.theqonline.net
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Julie C. Vogt" <jcvogt at pressenter.com>
>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:58 AM
>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Here's a Possibility
>>>
>>>
>>>> People do not agree but because they do not agree doesn't make them
>>>> totally wrong.
>>>>
>>>> As I understand it, the Communities of Faith was supposed to be a forum
>>>> for people of all religions.  But what happened when that lady first 
>>>> was
>>>> on this list who confessed to being a Catholic lesbian?  Everybody that
>>>> thought they are James Dobson's secret identity ran her off this list 
>>>> and
>>>> not in charge of it.
>>>>
>>>> How do you think Jesus is going to settle people's hearts when we get 
>>>> to
>>>> heaven "in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye?
>>>>
>>>> The voters have spoken.  In this country it is time for a change.  When
>>>> the African-American Gospel stations play, "A Change is Gonna Come" by
>>>> Sam Cook like it was the latest Gospel song, that ought to tell people
>>>> something.
>>>>
>>>> A lot of e-mail I got was down-right phobic racism and there's no two
>>>> ways of looking at that.  Obama thanked McCane for a good fight and for
>>>> being gracious in his acceptance speech.
>>>>
>>>> But here on this list, I find everybody has their own select Bible
>>>> reading and that is it.  You know where I was reading this morning?  2
>>>> Kings 6 where there was a famine in the land of Israel.  The Prophet of
>>>> God said basically that within the next 24 hours, there would be low
>>>> prices on badly needed food, just to paraphrase.  It made me thinkof 
>>>> Rev.
>>>> where it says very plainly that "The fearful and unbelieving God will
>>>> judge."  Perfect love casts out all fear also is another Scripture.
>>>>
>>>> Some one in the crowd of Israelites didn't believe the prophecy and
>>>> the Prophet of God that the unbeliever would see it with his own eyes,
>>>> but would not be a part of it.  That man was trampled to death.
>>>>
>>>> Phobia isn't going to get you anywhere these next four years, and 
>>>> neither
>>>> is being a sore loser.  People who were leaders in the Democrat party
>>>> that had their phone conversations illegally listened in on in the past
>>>> four years at least learned that much.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe now we will have some dialog that isn't just 100% "my way or the
>>>> highway Bible thumping.  Zero tolerance didn't win the election for you
>>>> because your lack of love and a few other things were showing.  Learn
>>>> from it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human
>>>> soul," American Humorist Mark Twain
>>>>
>>>> "An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us," Dr. Kenneth 
>>>> Jernigan,
>>>> Immediate Past President, National Federation of the Blind
>>>>
>>>> "A brother offended is harder to be won than a strong city: and their
>>>> contentions are like the bars of a castle." Proverbs 18 19. KJV
>>>>
>>>> "Faith is the ability to see God in the dark.," (unknown)
>>>>
>>>> "No one can do it for us but us," Rev. Jesse Jackson, Operation Push,
>>>> 1976.
>>>>
>>>> "With proper training, development, and opportunity, blindness can be
>>>> reduced to the level of a physical nuisance or characteristic," the 
>>>> Late
>>>> Dr. Kenneth Jernigan, Past President, National Federation of the Blind.
>>>>
>>>> Julie Vogt or jcvogt at pressenter.com
>>>>
>>>>
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