[Faith-talk] Here's a Possibility

Thu Nov 6 20:19:00 UTC 2008

Define "programmed" Christian for me, please.

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   There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don't walk according to the flesh,  
but according to the Spirit. Romans 8:1
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Alan D Wheeler
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julie C. Vogt" <jcvogt at pressenter.com>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Here's a Possibility

> It happened quite a while ago.  You may not have remembered.  I think I made 
> a good few points but if you're a programmed Christian it probably got past 
> you.
> 
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> From: "Alan Wheeler" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Here's a Possibility
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>> What is the point of this message?  I don't remember anyone being run off 
>> this list.  I also wouldn't call the Christians on this list "bible 
>> thumpers" as that is an unfair and biased generalization.
>>
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>>   There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, 
>> who don't walk according to the flesh,
>> but according to the Spirit. Romans 8:1
>> ~~~
>>
>> Alan D Wheeler
>> awheeler at neb.rr.com
>> IM me at: outlaw-cowboy at live.com
>> Skype: redwheel1
>> Check me out on the Q, Fridays from 10 AM to 1 PM eastern time at 
>> www.theqonline.net
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Julie C. Vogt" <jcvogt at pressenter.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:58 AM
>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Here's a Possibility
>>
>>
>>> People do not agree but because they do not agree doesn't make them 
>>> totally wrong.
>>>
>>> As I understand it, the Communities of Faith was supposed to be a forum 
>>> for people of all religions.  But what happened when that lady first was 
>>> on this list who confessed to being a Catholic lesbian?  Everybody that 
>>> thought they are James Dobson's secret identity ran her off this list and 
>>> not in charge of it.
>>>
>>> How do you think Jesus is going to settle people's hearts when we get to 
>>> heaven "in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye?
>>>
>>> The voters have spoken.  In this country it is time for a change.  When 
>>> the African-American Gospel stations play, "A Change is Gonna Come" by 
>>> Sam Cook like it was the latest Gospel song, that ought to tell people 
>>> something.
>>>
>>> A lot of e-mail I got was down-right phobic racism and there's no two 
>>> ways of looking at that.  Obama thanked McCane for a good fight and for 
>>> being gracious in his acceptance speech.
>>>
>>> But here on this list, I find everybody has their own select Bible 
>>> reading and that is it.  You know where I was reading this morning?  2 
>>> Kings 6 where there was a famine in the land of Israel.  The Prophet of 
>>> God said basically that within the next 24 hours, there would be low 
>>> prices on badly needed food, just to paraphrase.  It made me thinkof Rev. 
>>> where it says very plainly that "The fearful and unbelieving God will 
>>> judge."  Perfect love casts out all fear also is another Scripture.
>>>
>>> Some one in the crowd of Israelites didn't believe the prophecy and
>>> the Prophet of God that the unbeliever would see it with his own eyes, 
>>> but would not be a part of it.  That man was trampled to death.
>>>
>>> Phobia isn't going to get you anywhere these next four years, and neither 
>>> is being a sore loser.  People who were leaders in the Democrat party 
>>> that had their phone conversations illegally listened in on in the past 
>>> four years at least learned that much.
>>>
>>> Maybe now we will have some dialog that isn't just 100% "my way or the 
>>> highway Bible thumping.  Zero tolerance didn't win the election for you 
>>> because your lack of love and a few other things were showing.  Learn 
>>> from it.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human 
>>> soul," American Humorist Mark Twain
>>>
>>> "An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us," Dr. Kenneth Jernigan, 
>>> Immediate Past President, National Federation of the Blind
>>>
>>> "A brother offended is harder to be won than a strong city: and their 
>>> contentions are like the bars of a castle." Proverbs 18 19. KJV
>>>
>>> "Faith is the ability to see God in the dark.," (unknown)
>>>
>>> "No one can do it for us but us," Rev. Jesse Jackson, Operation Push, 
>>> 1976.
>>>
>>> "With proper training, development, and opportunity, blindness can be 
>>> reduced to the level of a physical nuisance or characteristic," the Late 
>>> Dr. Kenneth Jernigan, Past President, National Federation of the Blind.
>>>
>>> Julie Vogt or jcvogt at pressenter.com
>>>
>>>
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