[Faith-talk] False Accusations

Corey Cook ccook01 at knology.net
Mon Nov 10 04:50:38 UTC 2008 

All sex out side of marriage is a sin in the bible.
The biggest sexual sin the church needs to deal with from with in side the 
church is premarital sex.
And extra marital sex.

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From: "BMW" <lynnwhite51 at sbcglobal.net>
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Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] False Accusations


> Beth, sex outside of the relationship between a husband and wife is a sin.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
> To: <timber_wolf899 at yahoo.com>; "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith 
> and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 9:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] False Accusations
>
>
>> Okay, if homosexuality is a sin, guess what?  What about the
>> homosexuals who have homosexual relations with each other and cannot
>> be attracted to opposite sex members?  I again may mention that I have
>> friends who are gay/lesbian.  And I am pleased with Obama in the white
>> house.  God knows what's best, and I believe in a God who loves all,
>> and God knows that homosexuality is a sin, but it is a sin between
>> those who can physically have someone of the opposite sex along with
>> being attracted with someone of the opposite sex.  Take my
>> ex-boyfriend for instance.  He likes women, but if he went to sleep
>> with a young college friend of mine who I know is attracted to girls,
>> THAT is a sin.  But if my friend who is lesbian went to sleep with the
>> equally lesbian girlfriend, it is not a sin.  We must love everybody
>> unconditionally, and we must not say that they are committing a sin
>> unless they really are and have the brain chemicals made up so that
>> they are attracted to someone of the opposite sex.  I am attracted to
>> menh, so if I went to sleep with my college roommate, for instance,
>> that would be a in in itself.  I am blind, and if I married a blind
>> man, that would be fine.  But the way this country and the bible seems
>> to be interpreted, homosexuality would be stomped out and next will be
>> blindness.  Before we know it, our listservs will be in jeopardy, an
>> then, we wouldn't be able to marry, write, read, go to college, and if
>> the Terrorists get our country, and that is if Barack Obama's not
>> watching over us, we will be wearing veils if we're female.  I for one
>> do not want any ore arguments about homosexuality to ever pop up again
>> on this listserv.  I want to play it straight: it may be a sin, but
>> unfortunately, nobody understands the homosexual cannot be changed if
>> they are truly homosexual.  I understand my friends, and they are good
>> people.  They are going to college and they are going to be band and
>> chorus teachers.  Do you people thin that these girls I'm friends with
>> shouldn't be band and chorus teachers to young children because they
>> are homosexuals?  According to the weird article I read, yes.  But I'd
>> hire them any time.
>> Anyway, that's my soap box for today.
>> Beth
>>
>> On 11/9/08, Frank Lordi <timber_wolf899 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> you are speakin gof the concept of 'blood guilt'?
>>>
>>> This so often brought grief to Isreal, no?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Sun, 11/9/08, Corey Cook <ccook01 at knology.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Corey Cook <ccook01 at knology.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] False Accusations
>>>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 8:44 PM
>>>> Homosexuality is sin.
>>>> Read Romans 1
>>>> read first Corinthians 6
>>>> Yes we need to love them just as we love all sinners, but
>>>> it is time to call it what it is, and that is sin!
>>>> It is a sin that will be the end of this country if we
>>>> allow it to be accepted and embraced.
>>>> Not a popular thought, but a true one.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Wheeler"
>>>> <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and
>>>> religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 6:29 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] False Accusations
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Never mind.  I keep telling you it is called a sin in
>>>> the bible...if you don't want to believe that God calls
>>>> it a sin, I can't say anything to sway you.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > +-+-+-
>>>> >
>>>> >   There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none
>>>> beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.
>>>> > 1 Samuel 2:2
>>>> > ~~~
>>>> >
>>>> > Alan D Wheeler
>>>> > awheeler at neb.rr.com
>>>> > IM me at: outlaw-cowboy at live.com
>>>> > Skype: redwheel1
>>>> > Check me out on the Q, Fridays from 10 AM to 1 PM
>>>> eastern time at www.theqonline.net
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth"
>>>> <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
>>>> > To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and
>>>> religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 2:41 PM
>>>> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] False Accusations
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> We're talking about a country where not
>>>> everybody believes in God.  We
>>>> >> Christians are shoving God down the throats of
>>>> those who don't know
>>>> >> him.  We need to pray for the homosexuals and
>>>> those who are
>>>> >> experiencing a so-called sin ad we need to be
>>>> nicer to these people
>>>> >> for God's own sake.
>>>> >> Beth
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 11/9/08, Alan Wheeler
>>>> <awheeler at neb.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> >>> At the same time, homosexuality is called a
>>>> sin and abomination by God. So
>>>> >>> you think we should allow people to continue
>>>> to sin against God?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> +-+-+-
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>    We know that all things work together for
>>>> good for those who love God, to
>>>> >>> those
>>>> >>> who are called according to his purpose.
>>>> >>>  Romans 8:28
>>>> >>> ~~~
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Alan D Wheeler
>>>> >>> awheeler at neb.rr.com
>>>> >>> IM me at: outlaw-cowboy at live.com
>>>> >>> Skype: redwheel1
>>>> >>> Check me out on the Q, Fridays from 10 AM to 1
>>>> PM eastern time at
>>>> >>> www.theqonline.net
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>> From: "Beth"
>>>> <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
>>>> >>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of
>>>> faith and religion"
>>>> >>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> >>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 10:44 AM
>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] False Accusations
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> I would have toagree with Julie.  Marriage
>>>> is about love, not
>>>> >>>> procreative reasons only.  I've known
>>>> friends who've gotten married as
>>>> >>>> nonprocreative peoples.  Also, has anybody
>>>> thought that marriage
>>>> >>>> should at least be for those that can
>>>> participate in it as well?
>>>> >>>> Also, if we have bans on same-sex
>>>> marriage, think of it this way: we
>>>> >>>> are forcing religion on the people, which
>>>> God really doesn't want us
>>>> >>>> to do.  To be Christ-like is not to shove
>>>> God down the throats of
>>>> >>>> those who don't know him, but to
>>>> spread God's love to them, to let
>>>> >>>> them be free people.
>>>> >>>> Beth
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On 11/9/08, Alan Wheeler
>>>> <awheeler at neb.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>> Beth,
>>>> >>>>> I gently disagree with you.  Marriage
>>>> was designed by God to be between a
>>>> >>>>> man and a woman.  Don't take issue
>>>> because I said it.  Study the Bible
>>>> >>>>> and
>>>> >>>>> if you still don't like it, then
>>>> you have to take it up with God.  It was
>>>> >>>>> His idea to begin with, not man's.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> +-+-+-
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>    The LORD is my strength and song,
>>>> and he is become my salvation: he is
>>>> >>>>> my
>>>> >>>>> God, and I will prepare him an
>>>> >>>>>  habitation; my father's God, and
>>>> I will exalt him.
>>>> >>>>>  Exodus 15:2
>>>> >>>>> ~~~
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Alan D Wheeler
>>>> >>>>> awheeler at neb.rr.com
>>>> >>>>> IM me at: outlaw-cowboy at live.com
>>>> >>>>> Skype: redwheel1
>>>> >>>>> Check me out on the Q, Fridays from 10
>>>> AM to 1 PM eastern time at
>>>> >>>>> www.theqonline.net
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>>>> From: "Beth"
>>>> <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
>>>> >>>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the
>>>> discussion of faith and religion"
>>>> >>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 7:29
>>>> AM
>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] False
>>>> Accusations
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> I don't care if Obama's
>>>> half-black.  God's people will come to
>>>> >>>>>> understand a few things:
>>>> >>>>>> 1. Marriage, for example, is not
>>>> between "one man and one woman".  It
>>>> >>>>>> is between two able parties, same
>>>> o different sex, that are actually
>>>> >>>>>> willing to stay together.  Our
>>>> high divorce rate of heterosexual
>>>> >>>>>> couples mostly is bad for our
>>>> children herein America.
>>>> >>>>>> 2. Abortion should never happen.
>>>> If it's something that has to do
>>>> >>>>>> with the mother's life and
>>>> health, then that's the only exception.
>>>> >>>>>> But rape and birth control reasons
>>>> are not good ones.
>>>> >>>>>> 3. Blind people can and wwill have
>>>> equal rights to vote, gain security
>>>> >>>>>> benefits, and so on.  Yes,
>>>> Obama's the most liberal, but we need him.
>>>> >>>>>> Maybe he's a lot more
>>>> Christian than Bush was.  But God's people must
>>>> >>>>>> not be against him.  I'm a
>>>> Catholic, and I'm also a liberal as well.
>>>> >>>>>> Obama has also beat Kennedy by so
>>>> many years.  ANything having to do
>>>> >>>>>> with race is out as far as I'm
>>>> concerned.  Next, what will happen when
>>>> >>>>>> a woman is in the White House?
>>>> What about a blind woman? lol
>>>> >>>>>> Beth
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On 11/8/08, Linda Mentink
>>>> <mentink at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Julie,
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> I'm sorry, too.  I'm
>>>> not against our president elect because he's
>>>> >>>>>>> black.  Fact is, he's half
>>>> black.  That's neither here nor
>>>> >>>>>>> there.  It's mainly
>>>> because he's the most liberal of all in Congress,
>>>> >>>>>>> and I believe that a lot of
>>>> our rights will be taken away once he is
>>>> >>>>>>> sworn in.  We'll see what
>>>> happens, but I'm praying for him, and all
>>>> >>>>>>> the rest in authority over us.
>>>>  I sent those things to you because I
>>>> >>>>>>> knew you wouldn't find out
>>>> from the mainstream media.  But the
>>>> >>>>>>> election has made history, and
>>>> God's people need to be more vigilent
>>>> >>>>>>> than
>>>> >>>>>>> ever.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Blessings,
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Linda
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> At 03:33 PM 11/8/2008, you
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>> It happened by accident.
>>>> When you didn't stop attacking in my
>>>> >>>>>>>> in-box--those of you who
>>>> did it--people of other races by way of our
>>>> >>>>>>>> new President-elect, I
>>>> wrote what I wrote.  Now you know how false
>>>> >>>>>>>> accusations hurt
>>>> everybody.  Because of one man the African-American
>>>> >>>>>>>> Church, and people who
>>>> attend them, have been under tremendous
>>>> >>>>>>>> attack ever since last
>>>> March with no let-up.  Ever since I began
>>>> >>>>>>>> attending and became saved
>>>> in African-American churches in 1972,
>>>> >>>>>>>> I've heard dirty,
>>>> dirty comments like:  "they just do in their
>>>> >>>>>>>> church what they did in
>>>> the slave days."  In the slave days,
>>>> >>>>>>>> African-Americans
>>>> weren't permitted to know anything of the Bible
>>>> >>>>>>>> but "Servants obey
>>>> your masters in the Lord for this is right.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> If people say what people
>>>> have said about one another's churches
>>>> >>>>>>>> ever since last March,
>>>> referring to us as blind people, we'd be up
>>>> >>>>>>>> in arms.  Let us all be
>>>> more careful.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> It hit me like a
>>>> thunderbolt while I was playing piano at a senior
>>>> >>>>>>>> citizens building today
>>>> why you all were upset.  And as upset as you
>>>> >>>>>>>> were last Thursday night,
>>>> Linda, I was that upset one month ago when
>>>> >>>>>>>> I read what you
>>>> particularly sent me privately at 5:00 on a Sunday
>>>> >>>>>>>> morning while  I was
>>>> getting ready for church.  I'm sorry and maybe
>>>> >>>>>>>> we can understand one
>>>> another better now.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>  has been
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> "Loyalty to petrified
>>>> opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a
>>>> >>>>>>>> human soul," American
>>>> Humorist Mark Twain
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> "An attack on one of
>>>> us is an attack on all of us," Dr. Kenneth
>>>> >>>>>>>> Jernigan, Immediate Past
>>>> President, National Federation of the Blind
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> "A brother offended
>>>> is harder to be won than a strong city: and
>>>> >>>>>>>> their contentions are like
>>>> the bars of a castle." Proverbs 18 19. KJV
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> "Faith is the ability
>>>> to see God in the dark.," (unknown)
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> "No one can do it for
>>>> us but us," Rev. Jesse Jackson, Operation Push,
>>>> >>>>>>>> 1976.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> "With proper
>>>> training, development, and opportunity, blindness can
>>>> >>>>>>>> be reduced to the level of
>>>> a physical nuisance or characteristic,"
>>>> >>>>>>>> the Late Dr. Kenneth
>>>> Jernigan, Past President, National Federation
>>>> >>>>>>>> of the Blind.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Julie Vogt or
>>>> jcvogt at pressenter.com
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
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