[Faith-talk] False Accusations
Alan Wheeler
awheeler at neb.rr.com
Mon Nov 10 09:00:00 UTC 2008
Well said and right on the money!
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There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.
1 Samuel 2:2
~~~
Alan D Wheeler
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Corey Cook" <ccook01 at knology.net>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] False Accusations
> Agreed, we should be nice to gays.
> We should also be nice to liars.
> We should also be nice to drunks.
> But we should tell them the truth about there sin.
> And love them and support them out of a sinful life style.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 3:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] False Accusations
>
>
>> We're talking about a country where not everybody believes in God. We
>> Christians are shoving God down the throats of those who don't know
>> him. We need to pray for the homosexuals and those who are
>> experiencing a so-called sin ad we need to be nicer to these people
>> for God's own sake.
>> Beth
>>
>> On 11/9/08, Alan Wheeler <awheeler at neb.rr.com> wrote:
>>> At the same time, homosexuality is called a sin and abomination by God.
>>> So
>>> you think we should allow people to continue to sin against God?
>>>
>>>
>>> +-+-+-
>>>
>>> We know that all things work together for good for those who love God,
>>> to
>>> those
>>> who are called according to his purpose.
>>> Romans 8:28
>>> ~~~
>>>
>>> Alan D Wheeler
>>> awheeler at neb.rr.com
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 10:44 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] False Accusations
>>>
>>>
>>>>I would have toagree with Julie. Marriage is about love, not
>>>> procreative reasons only. I've known friends who've gotten married as
>>>> nonprocreative peoples. Also, has anybody thought that marriage
>>>> should at least be for those that can participate in it as well?
>>>> Also, if we have bans on same-sex marriage, think of it this way: we
>>>> are forcing religion on the people, which God really doesn't want us
>>>> to do. To be Christ-like is not to shove God down the throats of
>>>> those who don't know him, but to spread God's love to them, to let
>>>> them be free people.
>>>> Beth
>>>>
>>>> On 11/9/08, Alan Wheeler <awheeler at neb.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>> Beth,
>>>>> I gently disagree with you. Marriage was designed by God to be between
>>>>> a
>>>>> man and a woman. Don't take issue because I said it. Study the Bible
>>>>> and
>>>>> if you still don't like it, then you have to take it up with God. It
>>>>> was
>>>>> His idea to begin with, not man's.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> +-+-+-
>>>>>
>>>>> The LORD is my strength and song, and he is become my salvation: he
>>>>> is
>>>>> my
>>>>> God, and I will prepare him an
>>>>> habitation; my father's God, and I will exalt him.
>>>>> Exodus 15:2
>>>>> ~~~
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan D Wheeler
>>>>> awheeler at neb.rr.com
>>>>> IM me at: outlaw-cowboy at live.com
>>>>> Skype: redwheel1
>>>>> Check me out on the Q, Fridays from 10 AM to 1 PM eastern time at
>>>>> www.theqonline.net
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 7:29 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] False Accusations
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't care if Obama's half-black. God's people will come to
>>>>>> understand a few things:
>>>>>> 1. Marriage, for example, is not between "one man and one woman". It
>>>>>> is between two able parties, same o different sex, that are actually
>>>>>> willing to stay together. Our high divorce rate of heterosexual
>>>>>> couples mostly is bad for our children herein America.
>>>>>> 2. Abortion should never happen. If it's something that has to do
>>>>>> with the mother's life and health, then that's the only exception.
>>>>>> But rape and birth control reasons are not good ones.
>>>>>> 3. Blind people can and wwill have equal rights to vote, gain security
>>>>>> benefits, and so on. Yes, Obama's the most liberal, but we need him.
>>>>>> Maybe he's a lot more Christian than Bush was. But God's people must
>>>>>> not be against him. I'm a Catholic, and I'm also a liberal as well.
>>>>>> Obama has also beat Kennedy by so many years. ANything having to do
>>>>>> with race is out as far as I'm concerned. Next, what will happen when
>>>>>> a woman is in the White House? What about a blind woman? lol
>>>>>> Beth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/8/08, Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Julie,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm sorry, too. I'm not against our president elect because he's
>>>>>>> black. Fact is, he's half black. That's neither here nor
>>>>>>> there. It's mainly because he's the most liberal of all in Congress,
>>>>>>> and I believe that a lot of our rights will be taken away once he is
>>>>>>> sworn in. We'll see what happens, but I'm praying for him, and all
>>>>>>> the rest in authority over us. I sent those things to you because I
>>>>>>> knew you wouldn't find out from the mainstream media. But the
>>>>>>> election has made history, and God's people need to be more vigilent
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> ever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Blessings,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Linda
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At 03:33 PM 11/8/2008, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>It happened by accident. When you didn't stop attacking in my
>>>>>>>>in-box--those of you who did it--people of other races by way of our
>>>>>>>>new President-elect, I wrote what I wrote. Now you know how false
>>>>>>>>accusations hurt everybody. Because of one man the African-American
>>>>>>>>Church, and people who attend them, have been under tremendous
>>>>>>>>attack ever since last March with no let-up. Ever since I began
>>>>>>>>attending and became saved in African-American churches in 1972,
>>>>>>>>I've heard dirty, dirty comments like: "they just do in their
>>>>>>>>church what they did in the slave days." In the slave days,
>>>>>>>>African-Americans weren't permitted to know anything of the Bible
>>>>>>>>but "Servants obey your masters in the Lord for this is right.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If people say what people have said about one another's churches
>>>>>>>>ever since last March, referring to us as blind people, we'd be up
>>>>>>>>in arms. Let us all be more careful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It hit me like a thunderbolt while I was playing piano at a senior
>>>>>>>>citizens building today why you all were upset. And as upset as you
>>>>>>>>were last Thursday night, Linda, I was that upset one month ago when
>>>>>>>>I read what you particularly sent me privately at 5:00 on a Sunday
>>>>>>>>morning while I was getting ready for church. I'm sorry and maybe
>>>>>>>>we can understand one another better now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> has been
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a
>>>>>>>>human soul," American Humorist Mark Twain
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us," Dr. Kenneth
>>>>>>>>Jernigan, Immediate Past President, National Federation of the Blind
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"A brother offended is harder to be won than a strong city: and
>>>>>>>>their contentions are like the bars of a castle." Proverbs 18 19. KJV
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Faith is the ability to see God in the dark.," (unknown)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"No one can do it for us but us," Rev. Jesse Jackson, Operation Push,
>>>>>>>> 1976.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"With proper training, development, and opportunity, blindness can
>>>>>>>>be reduced to the level of a physical nuisance or characteristic,"
>>>>>>>>the Late Dr. Kenneth Jernigan, Past President, National Federation
>>>>>>>>of the Blind.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Julie Vogt or jcvogt at pressenter.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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