[Faith-talk] Did Jesus Heal Homosexuals?

Mon Nov 10 21:12:39 UTC 2008

You said a mouthful here.  The mote in one eye is as bad as the beam in 
another when it comes to our own conduct every day.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan Wheeler" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
To: "Everett Gavel" <EverettG at successfuladaptations.com>; "Faith-talk,for 
the discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Did Jesus Heal Homosexuals?

> Everett,
> Thank you.  I can only add to this that Beth asked how she can tell her 
> friends that their lifestyle is a sin.  That is where repentance comes in. 
> If you have a sin in your life, to repent is to do a 180 degree turn from 
> it towards God.  You don't do it any more, you don't look at it any more, 
> you don't even think about it any more.  There are plenty of Christians 
> that understand repentance and have trouble with specific sins in their 
> lives.
>
>
> +-+-+-
>
>   There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither 
> is there any rock like our God.
> 1 Samuel 2:2
> ~~~
>
> Alan D Wheeler
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Everett Gavel" <everettg at successfuladaptations.com>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
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> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 8:17 AM
> Subject: [Faith-talk] Did Jesus Heal Homosexuals?
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>
>> Hello Beth, and all,
>>
>> I've tried to stay out of this.  It does not help
>> anyone learn, if they feel ganged-up on.  But with
>> respect, Beth, I share one point in all this:
>>
>> Jesus both lived and preached the word, God's truth,
>> daily.  Did He "heal" sinners?  Not of their sin, no.
>> And homosexuality - just as is lying, fornication,
>> adultery, murder - are all sins.  What He did do was
>> share God's Truth with them, and some it changed, yes.
>> And others it drove away.  But God did not physically
>> "heal" anyone of homosexuality, because it is a sin,
>> not a disability that needs "healing."  It is not of
>> the same ilk as leprosy, or some disease, or some
>> physical disability.  It is sin, plain and simple.
>> Just as is lying, adultery, murder, etc. The Holy
>> Bible - God's inspired word (2 Tim 3:16 - "All
>> scripture is God-breathed...") says this constantly,
>> consistently, throughout the 66 books that comprise the
>> Bible.
>>
>> Jesus did not heal from sin.  He did, however,
>> constantly warn against the consequences of it, for the
>> unrepentant heart.
>>
>> So, though many of us who try our best each day to live
>> the way Jesus tells us to, often go about it poorly, it
>> is our command, it is our life, to try to help others
>> understand when and if they're purposely living in sin.
>> We will be hated by some for speaking the truth--as was
>> Jesus.  No matter, it is the task given all those who
>> come to know and grasp the beauty that is Jesus Christ.
>>
>> Though ultimately I leave it up to God of course, it
>> seems "logical" to me that one cannot know Jesus truly,
>> and continue living in daily sin.  Though one may make
>> poor choices and fall back to their old ways at times,
>> to do so willingly and continuously is not living for
>> Jesus Christ.  And though many call themselves
>> Christians while sinning, willingly, on a continuing
>> basis, Jesus said that many will call Him, "Lord,
>> Lord," but on the day of Judgement, He will say He
>> never knew them.  To be a Christian is to follow
>> Christ.  To follow Christ means to pay attention to
>> what He actually says in His word, the Holy Bible. And
>> the Bible says not to give in to the urges or
>> temptation of homosexuality, as it is a sin.
>>
>> Anyway, in summary, no, Jesus did not heal homosexuals
>> of their homosexuality.  It is not a disability or
>> disease that needs physical healing.  It is a sin, as
>> are several other things that Jesus warns against
>> numerous times in His word, the Bible.
>>
>>
>> Strive On--for the Truth,
>> And for the Truth--We Need to Read Scripture Ourselves
>> Instead of Listening to Others,
>> Everett
>> www.biblegateway.com (Hint, Hint)  ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> Okay.  So Jesus loved and healed people with
>>> disabilities, but why
>>> didn't he heal the homosexuals?  The Bible was
>>> written in ancient
>>> times.  We have to take the Bible seriously here.
>>> Jesus never seems
>>> to have healed homosexuals.
>>>
>>
>>
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