[Faith-talk] Mandates On Who Can and Can't Have Children?

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Well, I would love children, but have chosen the path of not pressing for 
that blessing because of the combination of disabilities I have -- I figured 
early on that I would be happy being a doting aunt and a help to others with 
kids rather than taking on a family myself -- oh yes, and that reminds me, 
I'm single... Can't have kids very easily without a spouse.  (Any interested 
potential spouses out there can feel free to email me privately --and of 
course you know I'm kidding...*smile*)
I absolutely loved spoiling my niece and nephews when they were growing 
up... and I think their parents appreciated it. When I was still walking I 
babysat my oldest nephew and became very attached to him. Over the years, 
all the kids have stayed with me and my mother for various lengths of time. 
And now they are grown.
Well, good luck to those with kids. It's a strange world to grow up in. 
Wasn't there a chinese blessing that went "my you not live in interesting 
times..."  Interesting times can be fun, but also hazardous.
Keep up the good work.
--le

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
To: "Everett Gavel" <EverettG at successfuladaptations.com>; "Faith-talk,for 
the discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Mandates On Who Can and Can't Have Children?


You're right, Everet.  And I want children more than anything.  It
would be nice if I had childrn of my own, but how to get them if I'm
not married.
Beth

On 11/14/08, Everett Gavel <everettg at successfuladaptations.com> wrote:
> "Can't imagine a mandate on who can't have them?"  Ah,
> now we're getting into deep territory here. And it has
> everything to do with faith and blindness, so no
> worries there. Regarding this thing on telling blind
> people they can't be parents or have children or
> whatever, there are some points to consider.
>
> *  In some other countries, China for example, I
> believe there are already mandates on how many children
> can be had.  No, not on blind people, but on everyone.
>
> *  There are also those leaders in our own USA that
> believe there should be such limits on people here.  If
> you give thought to it, it's not all that far from
> telling, next, who can or cannot have children.
> Thankfully we have not yet openly made a practice of
> limiting how many children each family can have.  But
> they are already doing so in other countries.  And
> again, it's not so far fetched or so far beyond such a
> decree, to begin telling various groupings of people
> they can or cannot have children.
>
> *  In this country, they are already giving the option
> of aborting babies with certain genetics, such as the
> likelihood of, what is it, Downs Syndrome, I think?
> How different is that, really?  It's us, here in
> America, already saying that people with disabilities -
> or at least, certain disabilities - don't deserve to
> live.
>
> *  How much farther do we have to step (I say step as
> it's not much of a jump) to say people with
> disabilities don't deserve certain rights, either?
> They've already begun taking away the right to life,
> for some with disabilities.
>
> Ponder that for a few minutes.  It's sad, and even a
> little scary, that such a world is already here, not
> just a possibility.  The people who want that as the
> rule, are right now trying to get into power and to
> sway the current leaders to get legislation as such,
> every day.  Some of our current leaders and some just
> elected I'm sure, are also following that line of
> thought.
>
> Don't fool yourself into thinking it's not so.  If you
> pay attention, you'll see it all around you.
>
> It's a death culture, not a life culture, that is
> rising up.  Christ's people are being pushed down,
> we're not rising up.  At least, not in as much of a
> significant way as the death culture is.  It is here,
> and it certainly is, "now."  So be wary, and don't
> think the possibility of being told how many children
> you can have, or that you can't have children, doesn't
> exist.
>
>
> Strive On!
> Everett
> www.everettgavel.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>>I think that's just silly talk.
>>
>> It's an issue that no one really cares about.  Stupid
>> people have children all the time so how can they be
>> any worse than a blind person or a deaf person?
>> There may be many who are willfully killing children
>> but I can't imagine a mandate on who can't have them.
>>
>
>
>
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