[Faith-talk] Carmel Alert

[Beth]

Just so we all know, I am pro Israel.  Give Israel its land, and let
the Jews and Christians live together in peace.  That's the solution.
Don't let the Muslims get any of it.  But let's not discriminate.  I
wish there was a world in which we wouldn't discriminate against
others' faiths and stuff.  But that's just me speaking.
Beth

On 11/14/08, Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net> wrote:
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> Hi all,
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> I get this bulletin every week.  I know we are in the last days.  Read on.
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> Oversight Board :  Pastor Mike Fryer,  Sid Roth -
> Messianic Vision,  Motte Sircus
>
> The CARMEL ALERT Nov 14th 2008
> A compilation of news reports from the past week
> for the information of those committed to praying
>   for Israel  and the salvation of the Jewish  people.
>
> Stefan's Comment:  The Words of the Prophets Are Written on the Subway Walls
>>Jeremiah 14:13-14 "Then I said, "Ah, Lord GOD!
>>Behold, the prophets say to them, 'You shall not
>>see the sword, nor shall you have famine, but I
>>will give you assured peace in this place.' And
>>the LORD said to me, "The prophets prophesy lies
>>in My name. I have not sent them, commanded
>>them, nor spoken to them; they prophesy to you a
>>false vision, divination, a worthless thing, and
>>the deceit of their heart.  (NKJ)
>>
>>Back in the days of Jeremiah and the prophets,
>>the people of Israel had the word of God, at
>>least some of it. They had the books of Moses
>>that include Gods instructions on the things
>>that matter to Him and are close to His heart.
>>God went into much detail in explaining what He
>>does not approve of and what is an abomination
>>in His sight. He also noted, on many occasions,
>>that if the children of Israel do not walk in
>>His ways and obey the voice of the Lord that He
>>would punish them harshly and remove them from
>>the land of inheritance that He had given to them.
>>
>>The children of Israel did much evil in the eyes
>>of God such as (amongst many other things)
>>worshipping other gods, sacrificing to them,
>>burning incense to them and building alters to
>>them. Gods word stated very clearly what would
>>happen if the people performed these
>>abominations. The false prophets in Jeremiah's
>>time stood up and spoke directly against what
>>God had said, and that despite all the evil that
>>they were doing they would continue to prosper and dwell securely in the
>> land.
>>
>>The true prophets of old, sent by God, were the
>>ones who stood up and told everyone the bad
>>news, or the news that no one wanted to hear
>>that usually went something along the lines of
>>"repent of your wicked ways, return to the Lord
>>and He will forgive you, but if you continue in
>>them He will kick you out of the land, smite you
>>with the sword and so on...". These words were
>>not listened to and the prophets who spoke them
>>were persecuted and mocked instead. As Yeshua
>>said in Matt 23:37 "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the
>>one who kills the prophets and stones those who
>>are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather
>>your children together, as a hen gathers her
>>chicks under her wings, but you were not willing! (NKJ).
>>Paul also warned of such men who would rise up
>>in the latter days in 2 Tim 4:3-4 "For the time
>>will come when they will not endure sound
>>doctrine, but according to their own desires,
>>because they have itching ears, they will heap
>>up for themselves teachers and they will turn
>>their ears away from the truth, and be turned
>>aside to fables.(NKJ) Obviously not much is new
>>under the sun as King Solomon wisely said.
>>
>>Those fables that Paul is speaking about are the
>>same fables, unsound doctrines and non-truths
>>that the false prophets were declaring in the
>>time of Jeremiah by saying to the people that
>>they will have peace and be secure and prosper
>>when the very word of God said the exact
>>opposite about those who worshipped idols and did evil in the sight of God.
>>
>>Today it is not much different. There are many
>>so called / self proclaimed 'prophets' walking
>>around and declaring all kinds of 'words' that
>>go directly against God's word. Prophecies are
>>coming out saying that the world situation is
>>going to get better or that God is going to
>>restore and bless certain countries that very
>>obviously not standing with or supporting
>>Israel. There are many prosperity doctrines
>>being proclaimed throughout the congregations of
>>the world and many people are buying into them.
>>I believe that God wants to bless us and give us
>>the best (which in many cases His best is a
>>little different from our best. The 'best' car
>>for me is a Ferrari but God's best car for us
>>may be something a little different - see Isaiah
>>55:8-9 "For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
>>nor are your ways My ways...") but still God's
>>word is very clear on what is going to happen in
>>the world, and to believers in particular,
>>during the end days. Persecution, death and
>>tribulations. Nations that deal unjustly with
>>Israel will be judged harshly (even thought in
>>many cases it is God Himself who prompts those
>>nations against Israel in the first place), not prosper.
>>
>>Amongst all these terrors we also have hope.
>>Yeshua said not to worry about these things
>>because He has overcome the world and in the
>>book of Daniel (11:32) it is written that those
>>who know their God will carry out great
>>exploits.  Times are becoming darker and we need
>>to be able to discern between what comes from
>>God and what is of the flesh, or, the deceit of
>>our own hearts. God's word is our standard and
>>the light unto our feet and everything is to be
>>measured by it along with the Holy Spirit who
>>helps us to walk in all truth. God, through His
>>spirit, also gives us a spirit of discernment so
>>that we can see what is from Him and what is
>>not, as God's Ruach (Spirit) cannot go against His own word.
>>Now is the time to burrow deep into the word of
>>God, to place His truths as the foundations of
>>our lives and allow His sprit to sharpen us so
>>that the evil one will not be able to deceive us in these perilous times.
>
> The Lord bless you as you bless Israel by
> standing in defense of her right to exist on the
> land given to th Jewish people by the God of
> Israel Lets pray that Israel will turn back to
> their God.  Do not be silent, but share this with
> your fellow Christians, share it with your
> pastors, and with anyone you have a chance to
> speak to. Lets also pray for that breakthrough to
> the Muslims,  and please remember to pray for our
> son Jordan, and all of his fellow soldiers in the IDF.
>
> Shabbat Shalom  ....    David & Josie
>
> THIS WEEKS NEWS REPORTS
>
> 1. Israeli Lightly Wounded As Rocket Barrage Hits
> Negev     Har Aretz News    Nov 14th
>       A barrage of rockets fired from the Gaza
> Strip exploded in the western Negev on Friday
> morning, leaving one Israeli lightly
> wounded.   The strikes began in the early hours
> of Friday when eight Qassams exploded in and
> around the southern city of Sderot. Another five
> rockets, claimed by Hamas to be of the Grad type,
> struck Ashkelon a few hours later.   One Israeli
> suffered shrapnel wounds and another four were
> treated for shock after the first eight rockets
> exploded in Sderot and in a kibbutz nearby. Two
> of the rockets that hit Sderot damaged local
> buildings.   Immediately after the initial
> barrage, an Israel Air Force air craft fired a
> missile at a rocket-launching area in the
> northern Gaza Strip, wounding two gunmen.
> The two gunmen named as members of the Islamic
> Jihad militant group. Hamas claimed
> responsibility for all of the rockets fired on
> Friday.  Meanwhile, Israel on Thursday delivered
> a message to Hamas via Egyptian intermediaries
> indicating that while it has no interest in
> escalating tensions along the Gaza border, it
> would retaliate against any attempt by the
> Islamist group to carry out attacks.
>
> 2.  Ceremonies Around the World Remember
> Kristallnacht    Jerusalem Post   Nov 9th
>      More than 150 Jewish communities across
> Europe kept the lights of their local synagogues
> on overnight Sunday, as the Jewish world marked
> the 70th anniversary of Kristallnacht - the Night
> of the Broken Glass.  The notorious 1938 Nazi
> pogrom was the first in a series of violent riots
> that effectively began Nazi Germany's attempt to
> destroy European Jewry.  During November 9-10,
> 1938, hundreds of synagogues and Jewish homes
> were burned down, tens of thousands of Jews were
> arrested and deported to concentration camps, and
> over 90 Jews were murdered.  The World Zionist
> Organization initiative, calling on rabbis and
> community leaders turn on all the lights in their
> synagogues - as well as to light candles and
> torches - was meant to commemorate the pogrom in a highly symbolic way
>
> 3. With Obama at Helm, Iranian Threat Looms Large    Israel Today News Nov
> 9th
>       With President-elect Barack Obama ready to
> assume power in the most powerful nation on
> earth, Israel faces the grave prospect of a
> nuclear Iran. Barry Rubin, director of the Global
> Research in International Affairs Center, says he
> is worried about Obama's stated intention to
> "conciliate with our enemies, not support our
> friends. That worries me a great deal."  Rubin
> said that while the Israeli-Palestinian situation
> is not likely to be vastly affected by any
> American president, the more serious threat is a
> nuclear Iran and the "extremely serious strategic
> challenge which affects 20 countries or more.  We
> have every reason to believe that [Obama] will
> take a relatively soft approach, whether or not
> he holds direct negotiations or indirect
> negotiations" with Iran, Rubin told a news
> briefing in Jerusalem last week. "We cannot
> expect that he will take a tougher line on
> sanctions and pressures, and he will not persuade
> Tehran that he's going to do so. This will have
> the predictable effect that the Iranians are
> going to push ahead on nuclear weapons as fast as
> they have with much less concern over the consequences."
>       While Israeli leaders welcomed Obama's
> election and said they expect the "special
> strategic relationship" between the two countries
> to continue, signs of strain quickly emerged. A
> day after the election, Foreign Minister Tzipi
> Livni publicly condemned Obama's plans to talk to
> Iran.  "We live in a neighborhood in which
> dialogue­in a situation where you have brought
> sanctions, and you then shift to dialogue­is
> liable to be interpreted as weakness," Livni
> said. Asked if she supported the US dialogue with
> Iran, Livni replied: "The answer is no."
> Some Israelis are jealous of a charismatic figure
> that galvanized a nation, a dynamic missing in
> Israeli politics. As Israel heads toward its own
> elections, no such visionary leader has risen
> up.   But others expressed misgivings about
> Obama's policies toward Israel. An editorial in
> the right-wing Israel National News said Obama's
> readiness to sit down with an adversary comes
> from his "limited experience in international
> affairs. One who surrenders and retreats in hopes
> of gaining a little peace places his own survival
> in jeopardy," the editorial said. "Such has been
> Israel's experience at least since the year 2000,
> and such will be the experience of the United
> States if it sacrifices the interests of its
> allies in the pursuit of facile and elusive
> 'solutions.'"   More cause for concern came from
> the Arab press. The Lebanese newspaper al-Ahbar
> reported that Obama told Palestinian President
> Mahmoud Abbas in secret that he supports a
> Palestinian state and Arab "rights to East Jerusalem."
>
> 4. Livni Rejects Olmert's Call for Total
> Surrender    Israel Today News   Nov 11th
>      Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, head
> of the ruling Kadima Party, distanced herself on
> Tuesday from remarks by caretaker Prime Minister
> Ehud Olmert to the effect that Israel should meet
> nearly all Arab territorial demands.   Livni told
> Army Radio that Olmert's positions regarding the
> peace process are today irrelevant, and that she
> will not allow the deposed prime minister to
> influence the policy decisions of the next
> government to be elected in February.   A day
> earlier Olmert used a memorial ceremony marking
> the 13th anniversary of the assassination of
> former Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin as a platform
> to push his defeatist positions.   "We must
> concede parts of the homeland we have prayed for
> and dreamt of for generations," said Olmert. "We
> must relinquish Arab neighborhoods in Jerusalem,
> and return to that territory which comprised the
> State of Israel until 1967, with the necessary
> amendments stemming from the realities created on ground."
>       Olmert's critics on the Right, meanwhile,
> pointed out that Olmert was grossly
> misrepresenting the legacy of Rabin, whose own
> political doctrine far more closely resembled
> that of right-wing leader Benjamin Netanyahu and
> his colleagues.  In his final Kenesset speech
> just days before he was murdered, Rabin stated
> forcefully that Israel "will not return to the
> June 4, 1967 lines."  Rabin also pledged that he
> would never surrender any part of Jerusalem to
> the Palestinian Authority, nor "uproot a single
> settlement in the framework of the interim agreement."
>
> 5. Netanyahu Will Halt Land-or-Peace Process
> After All    For Zions Sake News Report   Nov 12
>      The office of Likud Party and Knesset
> opposition leader Benjamin Netanyahu on Tuesday
> clarified that if elected prime minister in
> Israel's upcoming general election, he will halt
> the current land-for-peace process with the
> Palestinians, despite reports this week to the
> contrary.   Netanyahu spokeswoman Dina Libster
> confirmed to the Associated Press that the Likud
> leader had plans to put territorial negotiations
> on hold and focus on helping the Palestinians
> stabilize and grow their economy.   Libster said
> Netanyahu views the land-for-peace negotiations
> that have been going on for over 15 years, and
> accelerated over the past year by US President
> George W. Bush, as a dismal failure.   "Netanyahu
> does not want to halt talks, but he believes it's
> premature to talk about a final peace deal, and
> sharing control of Jerusalem is out of the
> question," Libster said.  She noted that the
> Palestinians regularly point to their economic
> plight source of their terrorist tendencies, and
> so obviously that situation must be remedied
> before any viable agreement on other issues can be reached.
> Earlier this week Israeli media reported that
> Netanyahu had apparently backtracked on his
> position after meeting with and coming under
> pressure from international peace envoy Tony
> Blair and US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.
>
> 6.  Israel Infuriated by U.K. Plan to Label West
> Bank Produce    Ha Aretz News   Nov 14th
>      Relations between Israel and Britain
> remained strained on Thursday over Downing
> Street's intention to label products manufactured
> in West Bank settlements, a week before the
> expected arrival of British Secretary of State
> for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, David
> Miliband, to the Middle East.   Miliband, who
> will visit Israel, the Palestinian Authority,
> Syria and Lebanon next week, is expected to talk
> to Israeli officials over the settlements in the
> West Bank and his country's proposed plan to
> label products manufactured in them. "This
> initiative is a serious and substantial problem
> in relations between the two countries, and is
> generating a sense of crisis," a senior diplomat in Jerusalem said.
>
> 7. Obama's Fictitious Pro-Israel Team     by Jan Markell
>        There is a saying in the Jewish community,
> "But is it good for for the Jews?"  Thus, many
> are asking, will the Obama administration be an
> asset or liability for Israel? While many
> Christians place little interest or importance on
> this, this ministry does.  Much is being made of
> several Jews who are now a part of the Obama
> administration. Some seem to think that a few are
> very pro-Israel Jews and that we will thus see a
> new course of American-Israeli relations. I hate
> to burst bubbles but they are dead wrong.   he
> Israeli newspaper Israel National News reports
> that Obama hired a number of Jewish advisors who
> are quite critical of Israel, are anti-Israel
> (yes, some Jews are critical of Israel), and are
> in fantasyland about the Saudi Arabian peace
> intentions.  Those include Dennis Ross, Dan
> Kurtzer, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Tony McPeak, Susan
> Rice, Martin Indyk, and several more. These spell
> serious problems for Israel. Then there is
> Chief-of-Staff Rahm Emmanuel. He was the key
> person in the Clinton administration to make Oslo
> happen in 1992 and 1993. So we have a group of
> Jewish advisors, some of them Jewish, who are
> unfriendly to Israel's settlement policies in
> Judea and Samaria, also known as the West Bank and eager to divide
> Jerusalem.
>
> 8.  UK's Brown: Now is the Time to Build Global Society   Nov 10th
>        The international financial crisis has
> given world leaders a unique opportunity to
> create a truly global society, Britain's Prime
> Minister Gordon Brown will say in a keynote
> foreign policy speech on Monday.  In his annual
> speech at the Lord Mayor's Banquet, Brown -- who
> has spearheaded calls for the reform of
> international financial institutions -- will say
> Britain, the United States and Europe are key to
> forging a new world order.   "The alliance
> between Britain and the U.S. -- and more broadly
> between Europe and the U.S. -- can and must
> provide leadership, not in order to make the
> rules ourselves, but to lead the global effort to
> build a stronger and more just international
> order," an excerpt from the speech says.
> Brown and other leaders meet in Washington next
> weekend to discuss longer term solutions for
> dealing with economic issues following a series
> of coordinated moves on interest rates and to
> recapitalize banks in the wake of the financial crisis.
>       "Uniquely in this global age, it is now in
> our power to come together so that 2008 is
> remembered not just for the failure of a
> financial crash that engulfed the world but for
> the resilience and optimism with which we faced
> the storm, endured it and prevailed," Brown will
> say in his speech on Monday evening.   "...And if
> we learn from our experience of turning unity of
> purpose into unity of action, we can together
> seize this moment of change in our world to
> create a truly global society."  According to a
> summary of the speech released by his office,
> Brown will set out five great challenges the
> world faces.  These are: terrorism and extremism
> and the need to reassert faith in democracy; the
> global economy; climate change; conflict and
> mechanisms for rebuilding states after conflict;
> and meeting goals on tackling poverty and disease.
>
> Quote of the week:     Sky TV News  Nov
> 10th      "  Barack Obama is being hailed as the
> saviour of the world  "
>
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