[Faith-talk] Blindness and church

RJ Sandefur joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
Sat Feb 6 21:21:28 UTC 2010


Do you have scripture in order to back up your statement? RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "devona able" <djasister at windstream.net>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
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Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church


> Women do not belong in the pulpit.
>
> Devona
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Penny Golden
>  To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>  Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 5:30 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
>
>
>  Oh, Beth, I just have to laugh.
>  The Holy Scriptures are also patriarchal in some ways.
>  So though we believe in women's rights, some of us believe that there
>  is Biblical reason not to seek ordination as women.
>  However, most folk do not hold to that anymore.  So we're in a
>  distinct minority.
>  It's a subject on which we feel the Scriptures speak without
>  equivocation; but most do not think that we're right in our 
> interpretation.
>  We'll not agree on some things, here, that's certain.
>  Have a blest weekend.
>    At 08:46 AM 2/5/2010, you wrote:
>  >YOu're right.  Both of you.  But I am a believer in rights for women
>  >to serve in high roles in churches.  Catholicism is notorious for
>  >being so patriarchal.
>  >Beth
>  >
>  >On 2/5/10, Fr. John Sheehan <xaviersocietyfortheblind at yahoo.com> wrote:
>  > > The decision is at the discretion of the parish priest - and some, 
> for
>  > > whatever reason, do not like altar girls, whether sighted or not. I 
> don't
>  > > agree, but there you are. But there is certainly no reason why a 
> blind
>  > > person - of any sex - could not serve at the altar.
>  > >  Fr. John R. Sheehan, SJ
>  > > Chairman
>  > >
>  > >
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>  > > ________________________________
>  > > From: RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>  > > To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
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>  > > Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 2:50:52 PM
>  > > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
>  > >
>  > > This young lady wanted to be an altar girl.
>  > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fr. John Sheehan"
>  > > <xaviersocietyfortheblind at yahoo.com>
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>  > > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 1:51 PM
>  > > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >> We provide the Mass Readings in Braille and large-print, and we know 
> of
>  > >> blind lectors all over the U.S.
>  > >> Fr. John R. Sheehan, SJ
>  > >> Chairman
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >> Xavier Society for the Blind
>  > >> 154 East 23rd St
>  > >> New York, NY 10010
>  > >> (212) 473-7800
>  > >> Help us raise money for the Xavier Society for the Blind just by 
> searching
>  > >> the Internet or shopping online with GoodSearch - 
> www.goodsearch.com -
>  > >> powered by Yahoo! Free for you - and money for us! Thank you.
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >> ________________________________
>  > >> From: Albert J Rizzi <albert at myblindspot.org>
>  > >> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>  > >> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>  > >> Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 9:02:57 AM
>  > >> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
>  > >>
>  > >> Never never never. Just the opposite they are asking how to include
>  > >> braille
>  > >> in my church and have asked me to sing in the choir and to read 
> during the
>  > >> service as well. If your church is of that position and belief, tell 
> them
>  > >> Christ would be disappointed, all who are hungry are welcome at his 
> table.
>  > >>
>  > >> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>  > >> CEO/Founder
>  > >> My Blind Spot, Inc.
>  > >> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>  > >> New York, New York  10004
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>  > >> PH: 917-553-0347
>  > >> Fax: 212-858-5759
>  > >> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one 
> who is
>  > >> doing it."
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>  > >> On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
>  > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:56 AM
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>  > >> Subject: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
>  > >>
>  > >> I personally haven't had this problem, but, Have any of you been 
> told
>  > >> because of blindness, you couldn't serve in the church? If so, How 
> did you
>  > >> respond? RJ
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