[Faith-talk] Blindness and church

devona able djasister at windstream.net
Sat Feb 6 21:33:05 UTC 2010


Will look it up.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: RJ Sandefur 
  To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion 
  Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 3:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church


  Do you have scripture in order to back up your statement? RJ
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "devona able" <djasister at windstream.net>
  To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
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  Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 12:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church


  > Women do not belong in the pulpit.
  >
  > Devona
  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
  >  From: Penny Golden
  >  To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
  >  Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 5:30 PM
  >  Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
  >
  >
  >  Oh, Beth, I just have to laugh.
  >  The Holy Scriptures are also patriarchal in some ways.
  >  So though we believe in women's rights, some of us believe that there
  >  is Biblical reason not to seek ordination as women.
  >  However, most folk do not hold to that anymore.  So we're in a
  >  distinct minority.
  >  It's a subject on which we feel the Scriptures speak without
  >  equivocation; but most do not think that we're right in our 
  > interpretation.
  >  We'll not agree on some things, here, that's certain.
  >  Have a blest weekend.
  >    At 08:46 AM 2/5/2010, you wrote:
  >  >YOu're right.  Both of you.  But I am a believer in rights for women
  >  >to serve in high roles in churches.  Catholicism is notorious for
  >  >being so patriarchal.
  >  >Beth
  >  >
  >  >On 2/5/10, Fr. John Sheehan <xaviersocietyfortheblind at yahoo.com> wrote:
  >  > > The decision is at the discretion of the parish priest - and some, 
  > for
  >  > > whatever reason, do not like altar girls, whether sighted or not. I 
  > don't
  >  > > agree, but there you are. But there is certainly no reason why a 
  > blind
  >  > > person - of any sex - could not serve at the altar.
  >  > >  Fr. John R. Sheehan, SJ
  >  > > Chairman
  >  > >
  >  > >
  >  > > Xavier Society for the Blind
  >  > > 154 East 23rd St
  >  > > New York, NY 10010
  >  > > (212) 473-7800
  >  > > Help us raise money for the Xavier Society for the Blind just by 
  > searching
  >  > > the Internet or shopping online with GoodSearch - 
  > www.goodsearch.com -
  >  > > powered by Yahoo! Free for you - and money for us! Thank you.
  >  > >
  >  > >
  >  > >
  >  > >
  >  > > ________________________________
  >  > > From: RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
  >  > > To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
  >  > > <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
  >  > > Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 2:50:52 PM
  >  > > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
  >  > >
  >  > > This young lady wanted to be an altar girl.
  >  > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fr. John Sheehan"
  >  > > <xaviersocietyfortheblind at yahoo.com>
  >  > > To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
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  >  > > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 1:51 PM
  >  > > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
  >  > >
  >  > >
  >  > >> We provide the Mass Readings in Braille and large-print, and we know 
  > of
  >  > >> blind lectors all over the U.S.
  >  > >> Fr. John R. Sheehan, SJ
  >  > >> Chairman
  >  > >>
  >  > >>
  >  > >> Xavier Society for the Blind
  >  > >> 154 East 23rd St
  >  > >> New York, NY 10010
  >  > >> (212) 473-7800
  >  > >> Help us raise money for the Xavier Society for the Blind just by 
  > searching
  >  > >> the Internet or shopping online with GoodSearch - 
  > www.goodsearch.com -
  >  > >> powered by Yahoo! Free for you - and money for us! Thank you.
  >  > >>
  >  > >>
  >  > >>
  >  > >>
  >  > >> ________________________________
  >  > >> From: Albert J Rizzi <albert at myblindspot.org>
  >  > >> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
  >  > >> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
  >  > >> Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 9:02:57 AM
  >  > >> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
  >  > >>
  >  > >> Never never never. Just the opposite they are asking how to include
  >  > >> braille
  >  > >> in my church and have asked me to sing in the choir and to read 
  > during the
  >  > >> service as well. If your church is of that position and belief, tell 
  > them
  >  > >> Christ would be disappointed, all who are hungry are welcome at his 
  > table.
  >  > >>
  >  > >> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
  >  > >> CEO/Founder
  >  > >> My Blind Spot, Inc.
  >  > >> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
  >  > >> New York, New York  10004
  >  > >> www.myblindspot.org
  >  > >> PH: 917-553-0347
  >  > >> Fax: 212-858-5759
  >  > >> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one 
  > who is
  >  > >> doing it."
  >  > >>
  >  > >>
  >  > >> Visit us on Facebook LinkedIn
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  >  > >> -----Original Message-----
  >  > >> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
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  >  > >> On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
  >  > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:56 AM
  >  > >> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
  >  > >> Subject: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
  >  > >>
  >  > >> I personally haven't had this problem, but, Have any of you been 
  > told
  >  > >> because of blindness, you couldn't serve in the church? If so, How 
  > did you
  >  > >> respond? RJ
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