[Faith-talk] Blindness and church

pat gormley kk3f at msn.com
Sat Feb 6 21:36:45 UTC 2010


There is small passage in Corinthians that got taken way out of context 
where Paul was talking about order in the church.  But at the same time, 
Phoebe was a deaconess in Acts and several of Paul's compatriots were women 
Priscilla and Aiodia and Syndicae mentioned in Philippians.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "devona able" <djasister at windstream.net>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
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Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church


> Will look it up.
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: RJ Sandefur
>  To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>  Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 3:21 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
>
>
>  Do you have scripture in order to back up your statement? RJ
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "devona able" <djasister at windstream.net>
>  To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>  <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>  Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 12:34 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
>
>
>  > Women do not belong in the pulpit.
>  >
>  > Devona
>  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  >  From: Penny Golden
>  >  To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>  >  Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 5:30 PM
>  >  Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
>  >
>  >
>  >  Oh, Beth, I just have to laugh.
>  >  The Holy Scriptures are also patriarchal in some ways.
>  >  So though we believe in women's rights, some of us believe that there
>  >  is Biblical reason not to seek ordination as women.
>  >  However, most folk do not hold to that anymore.  So we're in a
>  >  distinct minority.
>  >  It's a subject on which we feel the Scriptures speak without
>  >  equivocation; but most do not think that we're right in our
>  > interpretation.
>  >  We'll not agree on some things, here, that's certain.
>  >  Have a blest weekend.
>  >    At 08:46 AM 2/5/2010, you wrote:
>  >  >YOu're right.  Both of you.  But I am a believer in rights for women
>  >  >to serve in high roles in churches.  Catholicism is notorious for
>  >  >being so patriarchal.
>  >  >Beth
>  >  >
>  >  >On 2/5/10, Fr. John Sheehan <xaviersocietyfortheblind at yahoo.com> 
> wrote:
>  >  > > The decision is at the discretion of the parish priest - and some,
>  > for
>  >  > > whatever reason, do not like altar girls, whether sighted or not. 
> I
>  > don't
>  >  > > agree, but there you are. But there is certainly no reason why a
>  > blind
>  >  > > person - of any sex - could not serve at the altar.
>  >  > >  Fr. John R. Sheehan, SJ
>  >  > > Chairman
>  >  > >
>  >  > >
>  >  > > Xavier Society for the Blind
>  >  > > 154 East 23rd St
>  >  > > New York, NY 10010
>  >  > > (212) 473-7800
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>  >  > >
>  >  > > ________________________________
>  >  > > From: RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>  >  > > To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>  >  > > <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>  >  > > Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 2:50:52 PM
>  >  > > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
>  >  > >
>  >  > > This young lady wanted to be an altar girl.
>  >  > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fr. John Sheehan"
>  >  > > <xaviersocietyfortheblind at yahoo.com>
>  >  > > To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
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>  >  > > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 1:51 PM
>  >  > > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
>  >  > >
>  >  > >
>  >  > >> We provide the Mass Readings in Braille and large-print, and we 
> know
>  > of
>  >  > >> blind lectors all over the U.S.
>  >  > >> Fr. John R. Sheehan, SJ
>  >  > >> Chairman
>  >  > >>
>  >  > >>
>  >  > >> Xavier Society for the Blind
>  >  > >> 154 East 23rd St
>  >  > >> New York, NY 10010
>  >  > >> (212) 473-7800
>  >  > >> Help us raise money for the Xavier Society for the Blind just by
>  > searching
>  >  > >> the Internet or shopping online with GoodSearch -
>  > www.goodsearch.com -
>  >  > >> powered by Yahoo! Free for you - and money for us! Thank you.
>  >  > >>
>  >  > >>
>  >  > >>
>  >  > >>
>  >  > >> ________________________________
>  >  > >> From: Albert J Rizzi <albert at myblindspot.org>
>  >  > >> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>  >  > >> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>  >  > >> Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 9:02:57 AM
>  >  > >> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
>  >  > >>
>  >  > >> Never never never. Just the opposite they are asking how to 
> include
>  >  > >> braille
>  >  > >> in my church and have asked me to sing in the choir and to read
>  > during the
>  >  > >> service as well. If your church is of that position and belief, 
> tell
>  > them
>  >  > >> Christ would be disappointed, all who are hungry are welcome at 
> his
>  > table.
>  >  > >>
>  >  > >> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>  >  > >> CEO/Founder
>  >  > >> My Blind Spot, Inc.
>  >  > >> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
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>  >  > >> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the 
> one
>  > who is
>  >  > >> doing it."
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>  >  > >> -----Original Message-----
>  >  > >> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
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>  >  > >> On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
>  >  > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:56 AM
>  >  > >> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>  >  > >> Subject: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
>  >  > >>
>  >  > >> I personally haven't had this problem, but, Have any of you been
>  > told
>  >  > >> because of blindness, you couldn't serve in the church? If so, 
> How
>  > did you
>  >  > >> respond? RJ
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