[Faith-talk] Blindness and church

Fri Feb 12 12:44:08 UTC 2010

I am a little worried about "styles of worship."  I think all of us old 
geezers need to be around young people and to respect, if not necessarily 
appreciate, their music and culture, to the degree that it does not conflict 
with Scripture.  Also, the you ng people need to learn to sing the old hymns 
and to understand and respect their elders.  Scripture teaches that the 
older men and women must teach the younger, and how can they do that if they 
never mix?  I don't see anything in Scripture that says that heaven will be 
segregated by age, race, nationality, or anything else?

Debbie Brown

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Lordi" <timber_wolf899 at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church

"How some people practice the faith or put it into practice does not change 
the content of what the faith is."

This is a great truth that sadly many fail to realize.
Thanks Father.
Frank

----- Original Message ----
From: Fr. John Sheehan <xaviersocietyfortheblind at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 10:06:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church

One of the great accomplishments of Vatican II was recognizing that the 
Church is made up of people of very different tastes and gifts and ways of 
wanting to worship. Many individual parishes offer a range of Mass styles - 
and if you cannot find one parish that has something you like, there are 
bound to be others. In the same way, more churches are now offering Masses 
in different languages - French, Latin, Spanish, Creole, etc. Some like 
guitar music - some like incense and organs - some like quiet.

It is important to keep in mind the difference between styles of worship - 
and that includes the personality of the priest and the preaching - and the 
content, which is the credal content of the faith. I am a Catholic, firmly 
and committed. Do I agree with each and every policy of the Roman Catholic 
Church? Nope. If I am ever in a position to help create change, I do. But 
the basics of my faith do not change according to whether I like the pastor, 
approve of the music, or disagree with the preaching or the way an 
individual or even a group of individuals is treated. How some people 
practice the faith or put it into practice does not change the content of 
what the faith is.

We are all sinners - we all fail - and I try hard not to put myself in the 
position of judging (something Jesus warned against a lot). My call is to 
live the faith as best I can - and to forgive those who fail, as I hope they 
will forgive me.
Fr. John R. Sheehan, SJ
Chairman

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From: Norma Crosby <norma.crosby at gmail.com>
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Sent: Fri, February 5, 2010 2:34:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church

I have been watching this thread for a few days without making comment.
However, I guess I have two to make. Understand that I am just a spiritual
seeker. I hold no position in any church hierarchy, so here goes.

First, I am hearing some people suggest that you find a different church,
and I would agree that if you are uncomfortable in your parish, you should
look for a new church home. That is not a recommendation to leave the
Catholic Church. Rather, it is a suggestion that you search and find a
congregation where you are more comfortable.

Second, I see others have suggested that you leave your current faith
altogether, and I think that sounds radical unless you are truly unhappy
with the church as a whole. I am not a Catholic, although I have an interest
in learning more about Catholicism, but I would point out that you will find
negative aspects of almost any faith you choose. You will find people in
virtually every denomination who are more narrow minded than you would like,
and you probably will run across discrimination on the basis of your
blindness as well. This is a togh decision, and I will be praying for you as
you make.

Best regards,
Norma Crosby

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