[Faith-talk] Block Peter Wolfe

[daniel strube]

I am concerned if we are doingany favors or showing a Christ like attitude 
the way we are talking about someone like we've been doing.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John J. Boyer" <john at godtouches.org>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
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Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Block Peter Wolfe


>I am a Catholic. I'm really concerned that Peter is giving Catholicism a
> bad reputation on this list. The first principle of interreligious
> dialogue is to respect the other person. The second principle is to
> respect the other person's freedom of conscience. One should state
> his/her own beliefs. The worst thing to do is to demonize others for
> their beliefs. Only slightly worse is the confrontational, arrogant
> attitude that Peter displays.
>
> Let's all pray for Peter, that God will give him a charitable spirit.
>
> John
>
> On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 09:43:51AM -0500, Greg Aikens wrote:
>> Peter, you miss the point. Its not that everyone disagrees with what
>> you have to say, although many do I'm sure. The biggest problem in my
>> opinion is the way you come at what you say. You present your ideas,
>> often insulting those who disagree with you ahead of time. Then if
>> someone challenges what you say, you call them a judgmental Christian,
>> accuse them of not having biblical morrality and then ask why everyone
>> is so upset with you. Ask your questions with humility, as though you
>> really wanted to hear the opinions of others. Present your argument
>> without name calling or mud slinging. Understand that just like
>> catholics, every other religious group is made up of individuals who
>> do not want to be stereotyped either. You have admitted to having a
>> lot to learn about your own faith and Catholicism in specific; so act
>> like it and ask your questions. Remember that hard questions of faith
>> are rarely as black and white as you seem to treat them. Sincere,
>> Bible believing Christians disagree on how biblical principles can and
>> should be applied in every day life.
>>
>> I appreciate having someone on the list who is willing to ask
>> questions, even questions of how our faith impacts political
>> decisions. I think that is appropriate for a list like this. What is
>> not is the inflamatory attitude.
>>
>> Blessings,
>> Greg
>>
>> On 6/26/10, Peter Wolfe <sunspot005 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > John,
>> >
>> >
>> >    I really feel the "Peace, Love, Service" you have in your
>> > signature. Learning the hard way of fighting for justice and equality?
>> > You defy the Pope and the Holy Catholic church dear sir. You defy the
>> > holy order of the church, then logically from my parishes estimation
>> > you should be officially ex-communicated pronto amigo. The same goes
>> > for any christian that uses such ruthless barbarian tactics like
>> > putting capital punishment in their own hands. Plain fact is that the
>> > United States of America is just like Saudia Arabia and Iran and even
>> > China in the treatment of our own citizens. Plain truth of the matter
>> > is that the GINI report with excessive greed and ignorance is rampant
>> > all around to the wealthy ruling classes dominating the fray over our
>> > day to day lives. The fact is if you execute a innocent person you
>> > yourself are acting like God. You have no right to do so and forces
>> > are in play to equal the playing field and I'm leaving the list
>> > voluntarily. So, much for being tolerant, loving and compassionant
>> > christians on stances of moral perptitude and moral dignity. Go ahead
>> > put another assault battery, electric chair, hanginging, or lethal
>> > injection on another person. Judgers of men are judgers indeed.
>> >
>> > God bless,
>> > Peter
>> >
>> >
>> > On 6/26/10, John J. Boyer <john at godtouches.org> wrote:
>> >> Linda,
>> >>
>> >> I think most of us have had enough of Peter Wolfe. He will have to 
>> >> learn
>> >> the hard way that his approach is not effective. Meanwhile, please 
>> >> block
>> >> him from this list.
>> >>
>> >> John
>> >>
>> >> --
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>> >> Peace, Love, Service
>> >>
>> >>
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>> > --
>> > Peter Q. Wolfe, AS
>> > sunspot005 at gmail.com
>> >
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