[Faith-talk] non-christians on this list

Kirt Manwaring kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
Fri Apr 22 19:44:57 UTC 2011


Woops...I sent a message thinking it would go just to John, but it
went to the whole list.  My sincere appologies.

On 4/22/11, Jorge Paez <computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com> wrote:
> Kirt:
> I do believe you are right in the divisions.
> I myself am a Catholic, but have taken the time to study the 2 other major
> religions of the world (Judaism and Islam), and we're currently studying the
> reformation in school.
>
> According to my understanding, the majesterium mandated at that time that
> all bibles bee in Latin, therefore making it impossible for the "common
> people" to read,
> while the protestants (please correct me if I'm wrong) were the first to
> start reading the bible in common languages, believing that the bible should
> be read and understood by each and every believer.
>
> Am I correct?
>
> Jorge
>
>
> On Apr 22, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Kirt Manwaring wrote:
>
>> John,
>>  I never replied to your message earlier.  Thanks for your answers
>> about the Majesterium and Tradition.  So, if I'm understanding right,
>> it is your belief that the majesterium/teaching arm of the Roman
>> Catholic church is simply clarifying the revelation already given.  In
>> other words, Jesus was and the Bible was the complete Revelation of
>> God.  If I'm understanding right, the biggest disagreement between
>> Catholics and Protestants is a matter of interpretation of the Bible.
>> For you, am I right in saying the interpretation provided by
>> tradition/majesterium is authoritativ and the only "correct" way to
>> look at scripture, while in Protestant Christianity it is more open to
>> the reader's own interpretation?  I know that's a huge generalization,
>> but would you say I'm right there?
>>  Anyways...I'm also curious about another statement you made.  You
>> said something to the effect of believing Joseph Smith's vissions were
>> genuine, but not valid.  So...for you, as a Catholic, do you think he
>> was misguided?  Partially inspired but ultimately mistaken in taking
>> it too far?  Inspired by the devil?  I won't get offended, I want your
>> honest opinion and I'm not going to take it personally.
>>  And, religious dialogue is definitely important...I'd say escential.
>> I think there's much to learn from all religions, and personally I'm
>> convinced God has inspired them all.  That doesn't mean I believe with
>> everything every faith claims, but I see the hand of God throughout
>> the religious world.
>>  I have one other question for you.  Are you familiar with the idea
>> of anonimous Christianity?  If so, what are your thoughts on it?
>>  God bless,
>> Kirt
>>
>> On 4/21/11, John J. Boyer <john at godtouches.org> wrote:
>>> I'm definitely Christian, but I'm all for interrelitious dialog. In
>>> fact, I think that is part of my particular work of evangelization. If
>>> you go to my website, http://www.godtouches.org you will see that it's
>>> motto is "peace, love, service". I think that my work of evangelization
>>> is to spread these attitudes of Christ even in the secular world.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 09:25:24PM -0600, Kirt Manwaring wrote:
>>>> Dear list,
>>>>  I very much enjoy all the devotionals and prayer requests and
>>>> discussions on here.  I'm pretty sure it's one of the few worthwhile
>>>> distractions in life.  But I am curious, and I definitely don't mean
>>>> to offend, if there are any non-christian regular readers of this
>>>> mailinglist?  I don't mean to procelyte, and I don't want this thread
>>>> to turn into an overblown theological debate, but I'm very interested
>>>> in talking with and learning from people from other faiths.  If that's
>>>> you, and you wouldn't mind talking, would you please email me
>>>> off-list?  I won't procelyte- I won't try to baptize you or anything.
>>>> I just want a friendly dialogue.
>>>>  God bless,
>>>> Kirt
>>>>
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