[Faith-talk] "Let me tell you who Jesus is!"

Sat Jun 4 19:37:57 UTC 2011

Joshua, you're straining at a gnat. The Father and the Holy Ghost 
refer to two of the three persons in the Trinity. But, since you 
don't believe in the Trinity, this question does not have a clear 
answer for you. I suggest you quit knit-picking on the issue, and let 
us believe as we are taught from our own reading of the Bible and our 
community of faith. That's all I'll say on the matter.

Blessings,

Linda
At 09:42 AM 6/3/2011, you wrote:
>Sister Jeanette, what do you make of Colossians, 2:9, and 1:19?
>Also, how many fathers did Jesus have?
>Two gospels state that the Father was the father of Jesus, but the
>other two say that Jesus was conceived of the Holy Ghost.
>Jesus couldn't have had 2 fathers, because that's impossible.
>We don't have more than one natural father.
>If this is true, that both are the father, it isn't a contradiction,
>once you understand that they, (the Father, and Holy Spirit,) are one
>in the same.
>They are one in the same spirit, but diferent, in manifestation.
>Blessings, Joshua
>
>On 6/3/11, Jeanette <nettiecosp at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > i think we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this subject.
> > jeanette
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> > To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
> > <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 7:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] "Let me tell you who Jesus is!"
> >
> >
> >> The Holy Spirit, is only a spirit.
> >> Spirits have a mind will and emotions, but that doesn't make a person.
> >> There has to be flesh and blood, to make it a person.
> >> Only Jesus took on flesh.
> >> The Holy Spirit gives us power to overcome sin, and anointing to carry
> >> on the ministry of Jesus.
> >> Jesus was the father in creation, the son in redemption, but now, he's
> >> the Holy Spirit in regeneration.
> >> Romans 8:9 calls the Holy Spirit, "The Spirit of Christ."
> >> That same spirit that dwelt in the fleshly body of Jesus, (the
> >> father,) now dwells in us as the Holy Ghost.
> >> When a believer repents, is baptized in Jesus's name, (Acts, 2:38,)
> >> and receives the Holy Ghost, (evidenced by tongues,) that's when Jesus
> >> comes in.
> >> That's why, if you don't have the Holy Ghost, you don't have all that
> >> you need, to live a victorious Christian life.
> >> Blessings, Joshua
> >>
> >> On 6/3/11, Debbie Brown <63characters at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>> When people refer to the Holy Spirit as a "person," I think they are
> >>> mostly
> >>> referring to will and mind and not flesh and blood.  It would be wrong to
> >>> think of the Holy Spirit as "miracle juice" that can be manipulated.
> >>> When
> >>> we are talking about the nature of God, any metaphor will break down, so
> >>> we
> >>> can study the Scripture, but I see no point in arguing about it.
> >>>
> >>> Debbie Brown
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> >>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
> >>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:13 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] "Let me tell you who Jesus is!"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Where's the body?
> >>>> John 4:24, "God is a spirit, (not a person,) and they that worship
> >>>> him, must worship him, in spirit and in truth."
> >>>> A person needs flesh and blood.
> >>>> God is not a person, but he manifested himself in flesh, (1 Timothy
> >>>> 3:16.)
> >>>> Notice also, that verse where that voice spoke from Heaven, that he
> >>>> said, "This is my beloved son, in whom I'm well pleased."
> >>>> Notice, "in whom," not with whom.
> >>>> The Father dwelt in the son, and the son was in the father.
> >>>> That's where we get the term, "The Mighty God in Christ."
> >>>> Colossians, 2:9, and 1:19, tell us that the fullness of the Godhead is
> >>>> in Jesus Christ.
> >>>> The Holy Spirit isn't a person either, it's a spirit.
> >>>> The father and the holy spirit are not 2 separate spirits either.
> >>>> If one is holy, and the other is equal they have to share it.
> >>>> God said, "I don't share my glory with another."
> >>>> The Holy Spirit is refered to as the Spirit of Christ, in Romans, 8:9.
> >>>> The Holy Ghost is Jesus in your heart.
> >>>> Jesus was the father, manifested in flesh as the son, and now, he's
> >>>> the Holy Gost.
> >>>> The role of the son ceased at the resurrection.
> >>>> Blessings, Joshua
> >>>>
> >>>> On 6/2/11, Barbara Hammel <poetlori8 at msn.com> wrote:
> >>>>> But God spoke from Heaven when John baptized Jesus.  "This is my
> >>>>> beloved
> >>>>> son
> >>>>> with whom I am well pleased."
> >>>>> Barbara
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Let every nation know whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall
> >>>>> pay
> >>>>> any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend,
> >>>>> oppose
> >>>>> any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of
> >>>>> liberty.--John
> >>>>> F. Kennedy
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Joshua Lester
> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:43 PM
> >>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] "Let me tell you who Jesus is!"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>> Notice, "I know Jesus is the Father!"
> >>>>> "I know Jesus is the Son!"
> >>>>> "I know Jesus is the Holy Ghost!"
> >>>>> "All these 3 are one!"
> >>>>> Jesus was the Father, in creation, the Son in redemption, and the Holy
> >>>>> Ghost in regeneration.
> >>>>> They are not 3 separate persons, they are one person, 3 manifestations.
> >>>>> To all of you, that believe in a trinity, go to www.leestoneking.com,
> >>>>> click on "Church History," and "The Oneness of God."
> >>>>> You'll see scriptures on the "Oneness of God," link.
> >>>>> Blessings, Joshua
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 6/2/11, Nikki <daizies304 at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>     Good song.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Joshua Lester
> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:53 AM
> >>>>>> To: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
> >>>>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] "Let me tell you who Jesus is!"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi, it's Joshua Lester.
> >>>>>> I posted the lyrics to this, as a reflection, a while back.
> >>>>>> Here's the video.
> >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXJzzBFn2Ug
> >>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
> >>>>>>
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