[Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues

Joshua Lester jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
Mon Jun 6 15:34:27 UTC 2011


Rex, the tongues, is the evidence, for the unbelievers.
It is also, to let you know, that you've received it.
Again, I'm not trying to start a debate.
Blessings, Joshua

On 6/6/11, Rex Leslie Howard, Jr. <rex at littlelaw.com> wrote:
> Well for one I appreciate all the comments and the discussion. I do believe
> that debate has its purposes. For instance, Paul debated with Agrippa and in
> Acts 26:28, I think it is, Agrippa tells Paul that he has almost convinced
> him that Christianity is real. I think, however, that we need to be mindful
> of Proverbs 26:4-5 which tells us how to handle debate. We should not debate
> simply for the purpose of trying to exercise our beliefs over another. The
> scriptures tell us to answer a fool according to his folly lest he become
> wise in his own conceit and the scripture also tells us not to answer a fool
> according to his folly lest we become just like him.
>
> I'm not calling anyone a fool.
>
> It is clear that we are going to differ on opinions. Does this make one
> right and the other wrong? No, I don't believe so.
>
> What I do believe though is that if we present a united front, we will win
> more people to Christ than we will if we operate in dissention and division.
>
> Is my salvation based on whether I believe in the trinity or not? Absolutely
> not. Is my salvation guaranteed on the basis of whether I believe in
> speaking in tongues or not? Absolutely not.
>
> Is my salvation based on my belief in Christ Jesus and His atonement for my
> sins. You better believe it.
>
> We say that we don't support a principle if it is not clearly spelled out in
> the Bible. The world glosalalia is not written in the word. It is derived
> from two words and was first used by Frederick William Farar in 1879. Does
> this mean that speaking in tongues has no merit? I don't believe this is the
> case.
>
> I will ask one question here.
>
> We read that speaking in tongues is evidence of being filled with the Holy
> Spirit. Evidence to whom? Does God need evidence that we are filled with the
> Holy Spirit? I think God already knows that. So, who is the evidence for? If
> we are not to be respecter of persons then who is the evidence for?
>
> I believe that speaking in tongues is a gift. I also believe that there is a
> difference between speaking in tongues and speaking in an unknown language.
> Do I believe that a person who does not speak in tongues is not filled with
> the Holy Spirit? No, I don't believe that. I believe that some may not have
> the gift of tongues and are filled with the Holy Spirit. Could I be wrong?
> Possibly. Could I be right? Possibly. Will I know the answer to these
> questions when I see through a glass clearly. Yep.
>
> Peace and blessings!
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 9:40 AM
> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>
> Thank you Nikki.
> I hope what I've said, doesn't come across, the way Ms Mentink, says it
> does.
> That's not the spirit I want to display.
> I just believe, that if Kirt has the right to put his T I video, on
> the list, this message should be allowed, as well.
> I love everyone, on this list.
> May God bless everyone of you, and remember, you can't lose for
> winning, when God is on your side.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 6/6/11, Nikki <daizies304 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>     I have a voice and wish to be heard.
>> Joshua, I believe, is merely informing, educating.
>> When has he told you he has the only Truth?
>> The Truth is in the Holy Bible and if you can't accept it, it's your own
>> fault.
>> Joshua gives Bible verses to prove a point, that's the way I see things
>> here.
>> I came on the list two months ago, looking for answers, but all that was
>> here was argument and debate.
>> I'm sorry, sounds a bit childish to me.
>> I'm ready to unsubscribe if things don't lighten up.
>> God bless you all.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alan Wheeler
>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:25 AM
>> To: 'Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion'
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>
>> I second this, Linda.
>> Joshua, please stop talking as though you, and only you know the whole
>> truth. It really isn't conducive to peaceful, productive discussion on
> this
>> list.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Linda Mentink
>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:00 AM
>> To: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>
>> I don't have time to read all the messages that have come in.
>> However, in first Corinthians 13 Paul says that toungues shall cease.
>> Somewhere, maybe there, he said it is better to seek the greater gifts, or
>> something like that. And, since they're gifts of the Spirit, they're given
>> to us by God.
>>
>> Joshua, you have a hard time listening to others. Please stop trying to
>> press your points. You think, or you come across like you think, that
> you're
>> the only one here who has the whole truth. I say again, please stop.
>>
>> Gotta go!
>>
>> Blessings,
>>
>> Linda
>>
>>
>>
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