[Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues

Mon Jun 6 16:03:34 UTC 2011

I'm E-mailing you, off list, Sister Jeanette.
Blessings, Joshua

On 6/6/11, Jeanette <nettiecosp at yahoo.com> wrote:
> doesn't the bible say that the tongues is to worship God and glorify God and
> that if someone speaks in tongues and no one interprets it then it will be
> confusing for unbelievers?
> i personally know folks who pray in tongues when we are all praying together
> in our small group or at church at the sunday night prayer meeting, i have
> never seen anyone speak in tongues and another interpret it, i do belive
> that tongues is a gift and we all have individual gifts from the Holy
> spirit, speaking is just one of them as far as i know.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 9:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>
>
>> Rex, the tongues, is the evidence, for the unbelievers.
>> It is also, to let you know, that you've received it.
>> Again, I'm not trying to start a debate.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 6/6/11, Rex Leslie Howard, Jr. <rex at littlelaw.com> wrote:
>>> Well for one I appreciate all the comments and the discussion. I do
>>> believe
>>> that debate has its purposes. For instance, Paul debated with Agrippa and
>>>
>>> in
>>> Acts 26:28, I think it is, Agrippa tells Paul that he has almost
>>> convinced
>>> him that Christianity is real. I think, however, that we need to be
>>> mindful
>>> of Proverbs 26:4-5 which tells us how to handle debate. We should not
>>> debate
>>> simply for the purpose of trying to exercise our beliefs over another.
>>> The
>>> scriptures tell us to answer a fool according to his folly lest he become
>>> wise in his own conceit and the scripture also tells us not to answer a
>>> fool
>>> according to his folly lest we become just like him.
>>>
>>> I'm not calling anyone a fool.
>>>
>>> It is clear that we are going to differ on opinions. Does this make one
>>> right and the other wrong? No, I don't believe so.
>>>
>>> What I do believe though is that if we present a united front, we will
>>> win
>>> more people to Christ than we will if we operate in dissention and
>>> division.
>>>
>>> Is my salvation based on whether I believe in the trinity or not?
>>> Absolutely
>>> not. Is my salvation guaranteed on the basis of whether I believe in
>>> speaking in tongues or not? Absolutely not.
>>>
>>> Is my salvation based on my belief in Christ Jesus and His atonement for
>>> my
>>> sins. You better believe it.
>>>
>>> We say that we don't support a principle if it is not clearly spelled out
>>>
>>> in
>>> the Bible. The world glosalalia is not written in the word. It is derived
>>> from two words and was first used by Frederick William Farar in 1879.
>>> Does
>>> this mean that speaking in tongues has no merit? I don't believe this is
>>> the
>>> case.
>>>
>>> I will ask one question here.
>>>
>>> We read that speaking in tongues is evidence of being filled with the
>>> Holy
>>> Spirit. Evidence to whom? Does God need evidence that we are filled with
>>> the
>>> Holy Spirit? I think God already knows that. So, who is the evidence for?
>>>
>>> If
>>> we are not to be respecter of persons then who is the evidence for?
>>>
>>> I believe that speaking in tongues is a gift. I also believe that there
>>> is a
>>> difference between speaking in tongues and speaking in an unknown
>>> language.
>>> Do I believe that a person who does not speak in tongues is not filled
>>> with
>>> the Holy Spirit? No, I don't believe that. I believe that some may not
>>> have
>>> the gift of tongues and are filled with the Holy Spirit. Could I be
>>> wrong?
>>> Possibly. Could I be right? Possibly. Will I know the answer to these
>>> questions when I see through a glass clearly. Yep.
>>>
>>> Peace and blessings!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 9:40 AM
>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>
>>> Thank you Nikki.
>>> I hope what I've said, doesn't come across, the way Ms Mentink, says it
>>> does.
>>> That's not the spirit I want to display.
>>> I just believe, that if Kirt has the right to put his T I video, on
>>> the list, this message should be allowed, as well.
>>> I love everyone, on this list.
>>> May God bless everyone of you, and remember, you can't lose for
>>> winning, when God is on your side.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 6/6/11, Nikki <daizies304 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>     I have a voice and wish to be heard.
>>>> Joshua, I believe, is merely informing, educating.
>>>> When has he told you he has the only Truth?
>>>> The Truth is in the Holy Bible and if you can't accept it, it's your own
>>>> fault.
>>>> Joshua gives Bible verses to prove a point, that's the way I see things
>>>> here.
>>>> I came on the list two months ago, looking for answers, but all that was
>>>> here was argument and debate.
>>>> I'm sorry, sounds a bit childish to me.
>>>> I'm ready to unsubscribe if things don't lighten up.
>>>> God bless you all.
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Alan Wheeler
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:25 AM
>>>> To: 'Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>>
>>>> I second this, Linda.
>>>> Joshua, please stop talking as though you, and only you know the whole
>>>> truth. It really isn't conducive to peaceful, productive discussion on
>>> this
>>>> list.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Linda Mentink
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:00 AM
>>>> To: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>>
>>>> I don't have time to read all the messages that have come in.
>>>> However, in first Corinthians 13 Paul says that toungues shall cease.
>>>> Somewhere, maybe there, he said it is better to seek the greater gifts,
>>>> or
>>>> something like that. And, since they're gifts of the Spirit, they're
>>>> given
>>>> to us by God.
>>>>
>>>> Joshua, you have a hard time listening to others. Please stop trying to
>>>> press your points. You think, or you come across like you think, that
>>> you're
>>>> the only one here who has the whole truth. I say again, please stop.
>>>>
>>>> Gotta go!
>>>>
>>>> Blessings,
>>>>
>>>> Linda
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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