[Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues

[Jeanette]

doesn't the bible say that the tongues is to worship God and glorify God and 
that if someone speaks in tongues and no one interprets it then it will be 
confusing for unbelievers?
i personally know folks who pray in tongues when we are all praying together 
in our small group or at church at the sunday night prayer meeting, i have 
never seen anyone speak in tongues and another interpret it, i do belive 
that tongues is a gift and we all have individual gifts from the Holy 
spirit, speaking is just one of them as far as i know.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
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Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues


> Rex, the tongues, is the evidence, for the unbelievers.
> It is also, to let you know, that you've received it.
> Again, I'm not trying to start a debate.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 6/6/11, Rex Leslie Howard, Jr. <rex at littlelaw.com> wrote:
>> Well for one I appreciate all the comments and the discussion. I do 
>> believe
>> that debate has its purposes. For instance, Paul debated with Agrippa and 
>> in
>> Acts 26:28, I think it is, Agrippa tells Paul that he has almost 
>> convinced
>> him that Christianity is real. I think, however, that we need to be 
>> mindful
>> of Proverbs 26:4-5 which tells us how to handle debate. We should not 
>> debate
>> simply for the purpose of trying to exercise our beliefs over another. 
>> The
>> scriptures tell us to answer a fool according to his folly lest he become
>> wise in his own conceit and the scripture also tells us not to answer a 
>> fool
>> according to his folly lest we become just like him.
>>
>> I'm not calling anyone a fool.
>>
>> It is clear that we are going to differ on opinions. Does this make one
>> right and the other wrong? No, I don't believe so.
>>
>> What I do believe though is that if we present a united front, we will 
>> win
>> more people to Christ than we will if we operate in dissention and 
>> division.
>>
>> Is my salvation based on whether I believe in the trinity or not? 
>> Absolutely
>> not. Is my salvation guaranteed on the basis of whether I believe in
>> speaking in tongues or not? Absolutely not.
>>
>> Is my salvation based on my belief in Christ Jesus and His atonement for 
>> my
>> sins. You better believe it.
>>
>> We say that we don't support a principle if it is not clearly spelled out 
>> in
>> the Bible. The world glosalalia is not written in the word. It is derived
>> from two words and was first used by Frederick William Farar in 1879. 
>> Does
>> this mean that speaking in tongues has no merit? I don't believe this is 
>> the
>> case.
>>
>> I will ask one question here.
>>
>> We read that speaking in tongues is evidence of being filled with the 
>> Holy
>> Spirit. Evidence to whom? Does God need evidence that we are filled with 
>> the
>> Holy Spirit? I think God already knows that. So, who is the evidence for? 
>> If
>> we are not to be respecter of persons then who is the evidence for?
>>
>> I believe that speaking in tongues is a gift. I also believe that there 
>> is a
>> difference between speaking in tongues and speaking in an unknown 
>> language.
>> Do I believe that a person who does not speak in tongues is not filled 
>> with
>> the Holy Spirit? No, I don't believe that. I believe that some may not 
>> have
>> the gift of tongues and are filled with the Holy Spirit. Could I be 
>> wrong?
>> Possibly. Could I be right? Possibly. Will I know the answer to these
>> questions when I see through a glass clearly. Yep.
>>
>> Peace and blessings!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>> [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 9:40 AM
>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>
>> Thank you Nikki.
>> I hope what I've said, doesn't come across, the way Ms Mentink, says it
>> does.
>> That's not the spirit I want to display.
>> I just believe, that if Kirt has the right to put his T I video, on
>> the list, this message should be allowed, as well.
>> I love everyone, on this list.
>> May God bless everyone of you, and remember, you can't lose for
>> winning, when God is on your side.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 6/6/11, Nikki <daizies304 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>     I have a voice and wish to be heard.
>>> Joshua, I believe, is merely informing, educating.
>>> When has he told you he has the only Truth?
>>> The Truth is in the Holy Bible and if you can't accept it, it's your own
>>> fault.
>>> Joshua gives Bible verses to prove a point, that's the way I see things
>>> here.
>>> I came on the list two months ago, looking for answers, but all that was
>>> here was argument and debate.
>>> I'm sorry, sounds a bit childish to me.
>>> I'm ready to unsubscribe if things don't lighten up.
>>> God bless you all.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Alan Wheeler
>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:25 AM
>>> To: 'Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion'
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>
>>> I second this, Linda.
>>> Joshua, please stop talking as though you, and only you know the whole
>>> truth. It really isn't conducive to peaceful, productive discussion on
>> this
>>> list.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>> [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Linda Mentink
>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:00 AM
>>> To: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>
>>> I don't have time to read all the messages that have come in.
>>> However, in first Corinthians 13 Paul says that toungues shall cease.
>>> Somewhere, maybe there, he said it is better to seek the greater gifts, 
>>> or
>>> something like that. And, since they're gifts of the Spirit, they're 
>>> given
>>> to us by God.
>>>
>>> Joshua, you have a hard time listening to others. Please stop trying to
>>> press your points. You think, or you come across like you think, that
>> you're
>>> the only one here who has the whole truth. I say again, please stop.
>>>
>>> Gotta go!
>>>
>>> Blessings,
>>>
>>> Linda
>>>
>>>
>>>
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