[Faith-talk] Casting Crowns

Kirt Manwaring kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
Mon Jun 6 18:06:05 UTC 2011


Rex,
  Absolutely!  And, you know what makes this even better?  They're
coming to Utah!  Oh yeah!

On 6/6/11, Rex Leslie Howard, Jr. <rex at littlelaw.com> wrote:
> Isn't the name Casting Crowns great? I was thinking sometime back about the
> name and I thought how much better would life be if we cast crowns instead
> of casting stones?
>
> Isn't that an awesome thought?
>
> Hallelujah, God is great, all the time.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:56 PM
> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>
> I'm glad, we're on CCM, now.
> For some real Southern Gospel music, visit, www.thestampsquartet.com.
> They were Elvis's backup group, for a long time.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 6/6/11, Rex Leslie Howard, Jr. <rex at littlelaw.com> wrote:
>> Woops, forgot to include this link.
>>
>> http://castingcrowns.com/content/touring
>>
>> You can see their tour dates there.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:20 PM
>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>
>> You got the right video, this time.
>> Casting Crowns needs to come back to Arkansas.
>> i'm also a David Crowder Band fan.
>> Too bad, they never come to Arkansas.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 6/6/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'll give it a try...I don't want something like this happening again!
>>>
>>> On 6/6/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>>>> Okay.
>>>> I accept your appology.
>>>> Youtube has been giving me fits, lately, as well.
>>>> I like the new accessible interface, tube.majestyc.net, better than
>>>> the regular Youtube.
>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>
>>>> On 6/6/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I was trying to post a casting crowns video in the thread called
>>>>> "something to think about."  I honestly don't know how T I got in
>>>>> there but I am sorry.  It was a simple mistake.  Thanks for letting me
>>>>> know-I honestly did not mean for that to happen!  I sincerely
>>>>> appologize for anyone who saw that video, it's not what I wanted to
>>>>> put up.  Please understand it wasn't intentional at all.  Thanks,
>>>>> Joshua, for bringing this to my attention...I'll put up the video I
>>>>> was trying to put up soon, and I'll double-check it's the right one.
>>>>>   Thank you,
>>>>> Kirt
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/6/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> The thread was called, "Something to Remember."
>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Joshua,
>>>>>>>   I never posted a video by T I.  Ever.  I honestly don't know where
>>>>>>> you're getting that from-I agree with you, that is absolutely aweful
>>>>>>> for this kind of list.  If it's not too much trouble, would you mind
>>>>>>> sending me a copy of the email with the video off-list?  If I got
>>>>>>> hacked, or made a mistake copying and pasting the link I was trying
> to
>>>>>>> send, I want to know!
>>>>>>>   God bless,
>>>>>>> Kirt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On a thread you posted, you had a T I video, ("No Mercy.)"
>>>>>>>> T I, is in a prison, in Forest City, Arkansas, (yes,) my state.
>>>>>>>> Why should we house a drug addicted gangster rapper, convicted of
>>>>>>>> illegal possession, of guns, when he was arrested in CA?
>>>>>>>> I know, we're off topic, here, but It's awfull, that someone would
>>>>>>>> post a video, by a convicted rapper, on this list.
>>>>>>>> I know, who the moderators are, and I'm not trying to do their job,
>>>>>>>> but I was offended by that video.
>>>>>>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Joshua,
>>>>>>>>>   That came through as a T I video?  Really?  That's not the link I
>>>>>>>>> put up...to my understanding, the link I put up was to one of my
>>>>>>>>> favorite religious artists, a Muslim man by the name of Dawud
>>>>>>>>> Wharnsby
>>>>>>>>> who sang a fantastic song about opening our minds and hearts up to
>>>>>>>>> others.  Is that not the video that came through?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Rex Leslie Howard, Jr. <rex at littlelaw.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hey Joshua, I used to have the opinion that I was right and
>> everyone
>>>>>>>>>> else
>>>>>>>>>> just didn't understand the bible the way that I did. Hahaha. What
> a
>>>>>>>>>> laugh.
>>>>>>>>>> God humbled me in a hard way and thank you Jesus my life has not
>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> same sense.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry someone would say that to you. In my opinion, that's
>>>>>>>>>> messed
>>>>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> God must love me an awful lot, he chastises me quite a bit and He
>>>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>>> He
>>>>>>>>>> chastises those He loves. Sometimes I wish He didn't love me quite
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>> as He does.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just kidding. There's nothing in this world equal to God's love.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Okay, gotta go for real this time. Perhaps I can catch up tomorrow
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> later
>>>>>>>>>> today.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 11:27 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I appreciate your spirit, Brother Rex.
>>>>>>>>>> You aren't like the AG pastor, I had.
>>>>>>>>>> When I accepted this oneness belief, he yelled at me, and told me
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> I wasn't saved.
>>>>>>>>>> I wish your spirit would rub off, on that preacher.
>>>>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Rex Leslie Howard, Jr. <rex at littlelaw.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah you're right, it was way out of order and it's something she
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> answer for in god's time.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua I think that in Acts 2 the principle being talked about
>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> xenoglossy. They were amazed because they could understand what
>> was
>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>> said in their native language and they understood that the
> speaker
>>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> normally speak in that language.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please note that I will always use words like "I believe" or "I
>>>>>>>>>>> think"
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> opposed to making a statement indicating that I am absolutely
> sure
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> say. A lot of this stuff is a mystery and is not to be understood
>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> this time. I don't have a problem with being ignorant of things
>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> know that I will know as I am known in the appointed time.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Remember there is nothing wrong with debate.  The problems arise
>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>>> to usurp our beliefs over another. I believe in stating a point
>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> moving
>>>>>>>>>>> on. If someone doesn't believe as I do, nothing I say or nothing
> I
>>>>>>>>>>> present
>>>>>>>>>>> subsequent to the initial statement or presentation is going to
>>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> person's position or belief.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I may firmly believe in something but does this mean I'm right?
>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> does and sometimes it doesn't. One thing is for sure though, The
>>>>>>>>>>> Holy
>>>>>>>>>> spirit
>>>>>>>>>>> is not wrong and will lead us into all truth and knowledge but we
>>>>>>>>>>> must
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> the desire and heart to seek after that truth.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> One other thing and I must get back to work and earn my keep LOL.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Our testimonies will do more to teach than will our ideas and
>>>>>>>>>>> notions
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> opinions.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We may argue with another's points of view but it's hard to argue
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> testimony.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Later yall.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Peace and blessings
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:59 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's all in the spirit, in which it is done.
>>>>>>>>>>> If someone isn't used to it, it will scare them.
>>>>>>>>>>> All I'm saying is, that the people were amazed, in Acts, 2, when
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> people spoke in tongues.
>>>>>>>>>>> That was how they knew.
>>>>>>>>>>> You won't find that craziness, in an Apostolic church.
>>>>>>>>>>> What that woman did, was out of order.
>>>>>>>>>>> My pastor has preached on order in the church.
>>>>>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Rex Leslie Howard, Jr. <rex at littlelaw.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I might buy into the statement that speaking in tongues is
>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> oneself that one has the gift of tongues. I mean it's kind of
>> hard
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> argue
>>>>>>>>>>>> with that logic. If one speaks in tongues then one definitely
> has
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence before himself or herself. I don't believe that it is
>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> oneself that he or she is filled with the Holy spirit. I believe
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> sense of peace and a sense of discernment, a sense of
> compassion,
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> desire
>>>>>>>>>>>> to grow in god's word, etc, are evidence to oneself that one is
>>>>>>>>>>>> filled
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> the Holy Spirit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will tell you this: my wife's daughter had never been in a
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pentecostal
>>>>>>>>>>>> church before. The first day she was in the church, someone
>> prayed
>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>> her,
>>>>>>>>>>>> speaking in tongues. This did nothing to foster a belief in this
>>>>>>>>>>> unbeliever.
>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact, she no longer wants to go back to this church. It
> scared
>>>>>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> did nothing to bolster her belief in God.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> She thinks badly of the church now and the woman who prayed in
>>>>>>>>>>>> tongues
>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>> her did more damage than good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The woman was more impressed with her abilities and her gift
> than
>>>>>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>>>>> desire
>>>>>>>>>>>> to bring this girl into a relationship with Christ Jesus. She
>>>>>>>>>>>> failed
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>>>> discernment and as a result, my step daughter believes less than
>>>>>>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>>>> when she entered the doors of the church.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe that the woman who prayed in tongues over her used
>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely
>>>>>>>>>>> bad
>>>>>>>>>>>> judgment as she had already been warned that my step daughter
> was
>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>>> to the principle of speaking in tongues and that the principle
>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> practice
>>>>>>>>>>>> would scare her.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I was filled with the Holy Spirit in a church service back in
>>>>>>>>>>>> early
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2005.
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> was in a praise and worship service and I was filled while I was
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> stage.
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> know I was filled because something in my heart changed. I also
>>>>>>>>>>>> felt
>>>>>>>>>> drunk
>>>>>>>>>>>> at the time and the whole service was, and still is, hazy in my
>>>>>>>>>>>> mind.
>>>>>>>>>> But,
>>>>>>>>>>>> it was many months from then when I began to speak in tongues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:34 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rex, the tongues, is the evidence, for the unbelievers.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is also, to let you know, that you've received it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, I'm not trying to start a debate.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Rex Leslie Howard, Jr. <rex at littlelaw.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well for one I appreciate all the comments and the discussion.
> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that debate has its purposes. For instance, Paul debated with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agrippa
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Acts 26:28, I think it is, Agrippa tells Paul that he has
> almost
>>>>>>>>>>> convinced
>>>>>>>>>>>>> him that Christianity is real. I think, however, that we need
> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> mindful
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Proverbs 26:4-5 which tells us how to handle debate. We
>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>> debate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> simply for the purpose of trying to exercise our beliefs over
>>>>>>>>>>>>> another.
>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> scriptures tell us to answer a fool according to his folly lest
>>>>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>> become
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wise in his own conceit and the scripture also tells us not to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> fool
>>>>>>>>>>>>> according to his folly lest we become just like him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not calling anyone a fool.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is clear that we are going to differ on opinions. Does this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> right and the other wrong? No, I don't believe so.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I do believe though is that if we present a united front,
>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> win
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more people to Christ than we will if we operate in dissention
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> division.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is my salvation based on whether I believe in the trinity or
>> not?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Absolutely
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not. Is my salvation guaranteed on the basis of whether I
>> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> speaking in tongues or not? Absolutely not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is my salvation based on my belief in Christ Jesus and His
>>>>>>>>>>>>> atonement
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sins. You better believe it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We say that we don't support a principle if it is not clearly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> spelled
>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Bible. The world glosalalia is not written in the word. It
>> is
>>>>>>>>>> derived
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from two words and was first used by Frederick William Farar in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1879.
>>>>>>>>>>> Does
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this mean that speaking in tongues has no merit? I don't
> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will ask one question here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We read that speaking in tongues is evidence of being filled
>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> Holy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spirit. Evidence to whom? Does God need evidence that we are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holy Spirit? I think God already knows that. So, who is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence
>>>>>>>>>> for?
>>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we are not to be respecter of persons then who is the evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe that speaking in tongues is a gift. I also believe
>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> difference between speaking in tongues and speaking in an
>> unknown
>>>>>>>>>>>> language.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do I believe that a person who does not speak in tongues is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Holy Spirit? No, I don't believe that. I believe that some
>>>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the gift of tongues and are filled with the Holy Spirit. Could
> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Possibly. Could I be right? Possibly. Will I know the answer to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions when I see through a glass clearly. Yep.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peace and blessings!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 9:40 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Nikki.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope what I've said, doesn't come across, the way Ms Mentink,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> does.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not the spirit I want to display.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just believe, that if Kirt has the right to put his T I
> video,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the list, this message should be allowed, as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I love everyone, on this list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> May God bless everyone of you, and remember, you can't lose for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> winning, when God is on your side.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Nikki <daizies304 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     I have a voice and wish to be heard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua, I believe, is merely informing, educating.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When has he told you he has the only Truth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Truth is in the Holy Bible and if you can't accept it,
> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fault.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua gives Bible verses to prove a point, that's the way I
>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I came on the list two months ago, looking for answers, but
> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here was argument and debate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry, sounds a bit childish to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm ready to unsubscribe if things don't lighten up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God bless you all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Alan Wheeler
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: 'Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I second this, Linda.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua, please stop talking as though you, and only you know
>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> truth. It really isn't conducive to peaceful, productive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Linda Mentink
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:00 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have time to read all the messages that have come in.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, in first Corinthians 13 Paul says that toungues shall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cease.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, maybe there, he said it is better to seek the
>> greater
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gifts,
>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something like that. And, since they're gifts of the Spirit,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>>>>>> given
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to us by God.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua, you have a hard time listening to others. Please stop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> press your points. You think, or you come across like you
>> think,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the only one here who has the whole truth. I say again, please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stop.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gotta go!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blessings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linda
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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