[Faith-talk] Casting Crowns

[Joshua Lester]

LOL!
If only, they'd tour with the Newsboys, and Jars of Clay.
Blessings, Joshua

On 6/6/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
> Rex,
>   Absolutely!  And, you know what makes this even better?  They're
> coming to Utah!  Oh yeah!
>
> On 6/6/11, Rex Leslie Howard, Jr. <rex at littlelaw.com> wrote:
>> Isn't the name Casting Crowns great? I was thinking sometime back about
>> the
>> name and I thought how much better would life be if we cast crowns instead
>> of casting stones?
>>
>> Isn't that an awesome thought?
>>
>> Hallelujah, God is great, all the time.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:56 PM
>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>
>> I'm glad, we're on CCM, now.
>> For some real Southern Gospel music, visit, www.thestampsquartet.com.
>> They were Elvis's backup group, for a long time.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 6/6/11, Rex Leslie Howard, Jr. <rex at littlelaw.com> wrote:
>>> Woops, forgot to include this link.
>>>
>>> http://castingcrowns.com/content/touring
>>>
>>> You can see their tour dates there.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:20 PM
>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>
>>> You got the right video, this time.
>>> Casting Crowns needs to come back to Arkansas.
>>> i'm also a David Crowder Band fan.
>>> Too bad, they never come to Arkansas.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 6/6/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I'll give it a try...I don't want something like this happening again!
>>>>
>>>> On 6/6/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>>>>> Okay.
>>>>> I accept your appology.
>>>>> Youtube has been giving me fits, lately, as well.
>>>>> I like the new accessible interface, tube.majestyc.net, better than
>>>>> the regular Youtube.
>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/6/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I was trying to post a casting crowns video in the thread called
>>>>>> "something to think about."  I honestly don't know how T I got in
>>>>>> there but I am sorry.  It was a simple mistake.  Thanks for letting me
>>>>>> know-I honestly did not mean for that to happen!  I sincerely
>>>>>> appologize for anyone who saw that video, it's not what I wanted to
>>>>>> put up.  Please understand it wasn't intentional at all.  Thanks,
>>>>>> Joshua, for bringing this to my attention...I'll put up the video I
>>>>>> was trying to put up soon, and I'll double-check it's the right one.
>>>>>>   Thank you,
>>>>>> Kirt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>> The thread was called, "Something to Remember."
>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Joshua,
>>>>>>>>   I never posted a video by T I.  Ever.  I honestly don't know where
>>>>>>>> you're getting that from-I agree with you, that is absolutely aweful
>>>>>>>> for this kind of list.  If it's not too much trouble, would you mind
>>>>>>>> sending me a copy of the email with the video off-list?  If I got
>>>>>>>> hacked, or made a mistake copying and pasting the link I was trying
>> to
>>>>>>>> send, I want to know!
>>>>>>>>   God bless,
>>>>>>>> Kirt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On a thread you posted, you had a T I video, ("No Mercy.)"
>>>>>>>>> T I, is in a prison, in Forest City, Arkansas, (yes,) my state.
>>>>>>>>> Why should we house a drug addicted gangster rapper, convicted of
>>>>>>>>> illegal possession, of guns, when he was arrested in CA?
>>>>>>>>> I know, we're off topic, here, but It's awfull, that someone would
>>>>>>>>> post a video, by a convicted rapper, on this list.
>>>>>>>>> I know, who the moderators are, and I'm not trying to do their job,
>>>>>>>>> but I was offended by that video.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Joshua,
>>>>>>>>>>   That came through as a T I video?  Really?  That's not the link
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> put up...to my understanding, the link I put up was to one of my
>>>>>>>>>> favorite religious artists, a Muslim man by the name of Dawud
>>>>>>>>>> Wharnsby
>>>>>>>>>> who sang a fantastic song about opening our minds and hearts up to
>>>>>>>>>> others.  Is that not the video that came through?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Rex Leslie Howard, Jr. <rex at littlelaw.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Joshua, I used to have the opinion that I was right and
>>> everyone
>>>>>>>>>>> else
>>>>>>>>>>> just didn't understand the bible the way that I did. Hahaha. What
>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> laugh.
>>>>>>>>>>> God humbled me in a hard way and thank you Jesus my life has not
>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> same sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry someone would say that to you. In my opinion, that's
>>>>>>>>>>> messed
>>>>>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> God must love me an awful lot, he chastises me quite a bit and He
>>>>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>>>> He
>>>>>>>>>>> chastises those He loves. Sometimes I wish He didn't love me
>>>>>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>> as He does.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just kidding. There's nothing in this world equal to God's love.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, gotta go for real this time. Perhaps I can catch up
>>>>>>>>>>> tomorrow
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> later
>>>>>>>>>>> today.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 11:27 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I appreciate your spirit, Brother Rex.
>>>>>>>>>>> You aren't like the AG pastor, I had.
>>>>>>>>>>> When I accepted this oneness belief, he yelled at me, and told me
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> I wasn't saved.
>>>>>>>>>>> I wish your spirit would rub off, on that preacher.
>>>>>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Rex Leslie Howard, Jr. <rex at littlelaw.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah you're right, it was way out of order and it's something
>>>>>>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>> answer for in god's time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua I think that in Acts 2 the principle being talked about
>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> xenoglossy. They were amazed because they could understand what
>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>> said in their native language and they understood that the
>> speaker
>>>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>> normally speak in that language.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please note that I will always use words like "I believe" or "I
>>>>>>>>>>>> think"
>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> opposed to making a statement indicating that I am absolutely
>> sure
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> say. A lot of this stuff is a mystery and is not to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> understood
>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>> this time. I don't have a problem with being ignorant of things
>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> know that I will know as I am known in the appointed time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Remember there is nothing wrong with debate.  The problems arise
>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>>>> to usurp our beliefs over another. I believe in stating a point
>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> moving
>>>>>>>>>>>> on. If someone doesn't believe as I do, nothing I say or nothing
>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> present
>>>>>>>>>>>> subsequent to the initial statement or presentation is going to
>>>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> person's position or belief.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I may firmly believe in something but does this mean I'm right?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> does and sometimes it doesn't. One thing is for sure though, The
>>>>>>>>>>>> Holy
>>>>>>>>>>> spirit
>>>>>>>>>>>> is not wrong and will lead us into all truth and knowledge but
>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>> must
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> the desire and heart to seek after that truth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> One other thing and I must get back to work and earn my keep
>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Our testimonies will do more to teach than will our ideas and
>>>>>>>>>>>> notions
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> opinions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We may argue with another's points of view but it's hard to
>>>>>>>>>>>> argue
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> testimony.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Later yall.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Peace and blessings
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:59 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's all in the spirit, in which it is done.
>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone isn't used to it, it will scare them.
>>>>>>>>>>>> All I'm saying is, that the people were amazed, in Acts, 2, when
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> people spoke in tongues.
>>>>>>>>>>>> That was how they knew.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You won't find that craziness, in an Apostolic church.
>>>>>>>>>>>> What that woman did, was out of order.
>>>>>>>>>>>> My pastor has preached on order in the church.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Rex Leslie Howard, Jr. <rex at littlelaw.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I might buy into the statement that speaking in tongues is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> oneself that one has the gift of tongues. I mean it's kind of
>>> hard
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> argue
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with that logic. If one speaks in tongues then one definitely
>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence before himself or herself. I don't believe that it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> oneself that he or she is filled with the Holy spirit. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sense of peace and a sense of discernment, a sense of
>> compassion,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> desire
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to grow in god's word, etc, are evidence to oneself that one is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Holy Spirit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will tell you this: my wife's daughter had never been in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pentecostal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> church before. The first day she was in the church, someone
>>> prayed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>> her,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> speaking in tongues. This did nothing to foster a belief in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>> unbeliever.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact, she no longer wants to go back to this church. It
>> scared
>>>>>>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> did nothing to bolster her belief in God.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> She thinks badly of the church now and the woman who prayed in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tongues
>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>>> her did more damage than good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The woman was more impressed with her abilities and her gift
>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>>>>>> desire
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to bring this girl into a relationship with Christ Jesus. She
>>>>>>>>>>>>> failed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>>>>> discernment and as a result, my step daughter believes less
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when she entered the doors of the church.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe that the woman who prayed in tongues over her used
>>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely
>>>>>>>>>>>> bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>> judgment as she had already been warned that my step daughter
>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the principle of speaking in tongues and that the principle
>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> practice
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would scare her.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was filled with the Holy Spirit in a church service back in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> early
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2005.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was in a praise and worship service and I was filled while I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> stage.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> know I was filled because something in my heart changed. I also
>>>>>>>>>>>>> felt
>>>>>>>>>>> drunk
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the time and the whole service was, and still is, hazy in my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mind.
>>>>>>>>>>> But,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it was many months from then when I began to speak in tongues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:34 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rex, the tongues, is the evidence, for the unbelievers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is also, to let you know, that you've received it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, I'm not trying to start a debate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Rex Leslie Howard, Jr. <rex at littlelaw.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well for one I appreciate all the comments and the discussion.
>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that debate has its purposes. For instance, Paul debated with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agrippa
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Acts 26:28, I think it is, Agrippa tells Paul that he has
>> almost
>>>>>>>>>>>> convinced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him that Christianity is real. I think, however, that we need
>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mindful
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Proverbs 26:4-5 which tells us how to handle debate. We
>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> debate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simply for the purpose of trying to exercise our beliefs over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scriptures tell us to answer a fool according to his folly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>> become
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wise in his own conceit and the scripture also tells us not to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> according to his folly lest we become just like him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not calling anyone a fool.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is clear that we are going to differ on opinions. Does this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right and the other wrong? No, I don't believe so.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I do believe though is that if we present a united front,
>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>> win
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more people to Christ than we will if we operate in dissention
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> division.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is my salvation based on whether I believe in the trinity or
>>> not?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Absolutely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not. Is my salvation guaranteed on the basis of whether I
>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speaking in tongues or not? Absolutely not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is my salvation based on my belief in Christ Jesus and His
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atonement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sins. You better believe it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We say that we don't support a principle if it is not clearly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spelled
>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Bible. The world glosalalia is not written in the word. It
>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> derived
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from two words and was first used by Frederick William Farar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1879.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this mean that speaking in tongues has no merit? I don't
>> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will ask one question here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We read that speaking in tongues is evidence of being filled
>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Holy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spirit. Evidence to whom? Does God need evidence that we are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holy Spirit? I think God already knows that. So, who is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence
>>>>>>>>>>> for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we are not to be respecter of persons then who is the evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe that speaking in tongues is a gift. I also believe
>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difference between speaking in tongues and speaking in an
>>> unknown
>>>>>>>>>>>>> language.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do I believe that a person who does not speak in tongues is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Holy Spirit? No, I don't believe that. I believe that some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the gift of tongues and are filled with the Holy Spirit. Could
>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Possibly. Could I be right? Possibly. Will I know the answer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions when I see through a glass clearly. Yep.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peace and blessings!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 9:40 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Nikki.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope what I've said, doesn't come across, the way Ms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mentink,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not the spirit I want to display.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just believe, that if Kirt has the right to put his T I
>> video,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the list, this message should be allowed, as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I love everyone, on this list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May God bless everyone of you, and remember, you can't lose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> winning, when God is on your side.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Nikki <daizies304 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     I have a voice and wish to be heard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua, I believe, is merely informing, educating.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When has he told you he has the only Truth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Truth is in the Holy Bible and if you can't accept it,
>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fault.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua gives Bible verses to prove a point, that's the way I
>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I came on the list two months ago, looking for answers, but
>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here was argument and debate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry, sounds a bit childish to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm ready to unsubscribe if things don't lighten up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God bless you all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Alan Wheeler
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: 'Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I second this, Linda.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua, please stop talking as though you, and only you know
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> truth. It really isn't conducive to peaceful, productive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Linda Mentink
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:00 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have time to read all the messages that have come in.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, in first Corinthians 13 Paul says that toungues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cease.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, maybe there, he said it is better to seek the
>>> greater
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gifts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something like that. And, since they're gifts of the Spirit,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>>>>>>> given
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to us by God.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua, you have a hard time listening to others. Please stop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> press your points. You think, or you come across like you
>>> think,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the only one here who has the whole truth. I say again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stop.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gotta go!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blessings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linda
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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