[Faith-talk] feeling like i am not important

Mon Nov 7 04:03:41 UTC 2011

- You and I  Ashley were on the same wave link.  I sent him a message in 
regards to this same topic.  I pray that he feels better about himself and 
let God show him thr right way so that he can feel better about himself.  I 
have a small church and I also use the internet to find the right devotions, 
sermons and other information to help me in my Christian walk and so far so 
good.  I am new at it and don't won't no one to take this wonderful gift 
away from me.
God bless,
Felicia-------------------------------------------------
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 9:59 PM
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] feeling like i am not important

> well, Andrew. You definitely need to learn braille if you cannot read 
> print;
> and if you're completely blind, you cannot.
> You can learn that via hadley school for the blind distance ed classes; 
> and
> I think Canada residents can take them; ask them to be sure.
> Next, I don't think you should go to a church which doesn't welcome you.
> Tell your parents you don't want to go. Then if they won't drive you to a
> different, more accepting church, then find one yourself via the internet;
> some churches have either live streaming of their services or recorded
> sermons. Listen to them and if you like them, ask for a ride and go in
> person.
>
> You shouldn't feel you need to attend a church just because your parents 
> do,
> especially if you're an adult.
> There are many ways to feel religious; read the bible; join a virtual
> Christian community read a devotional. you don't need to attend a church;
> listen to sermons online or on the radio or tv.
>
> Find what feels right to you and stick with  it. But you first need to 
> feel
> assertive.
> Don't go to the church if it doesn't meet your needs. And you probably 
> could
> benefit from a training center; surely there are centers for the blind in
> Cananda. With more mobility skills and living near a bus line, you can be
> independent.
>
> I depend on parents actually as well since I live with them. But they
> respect my decision whether to attend church or whatever the event is.
>
> ashley
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Andrew Edgcumbe
> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 9:01 PM
> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] feeling like i am not important
>
> Well changing church is not an option i go that particular church
> because my parents go there I don't have the independence of a blind
> person should have because i live in a very rural area and things
> closest town is about an 20 minutes from me.
>
> On 11/6/11, Ryan Kwaak <kwaakproductions at gmail.com> wrote:
>> If that's how it's gonna be, then leave the church. If I were in that
>> position, I'd tale my pastor aside and see if he's authorizing this
>> kind of nonsense. If he's going to stand by and let this happen, hit
>> him with 1 Corinthians 12:22-25. Rather than quote it, I'll just say
>> that in this passage Paul makes the case that even the members of the
>> body which we think are less worthy of honor are necessary. Hope this
>> helps.
>>
>> On 11/6/11, Andrew Edgcumbe <andrewjedg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Ashley I know what you are saying I can't read braille hymn nals
>>> the school for the blind in canada that is where I am from said that I
>>> don't need my grade 2 braille and most things are in grade 2 braille
>>> and things.
>>>
>>> I live in a fairly rural area so I depend on my parents so I have no
>>> choice  but to go to the church i am going to now.
>>> I  just feel that best thing I can do is just not do anything.
>>>
>>> On 11/6/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> well, either educate them  and make accomodations. Like for instance,
>>>> many
>>>> church hymnals come in braille, if you read braille; you could probably
>>>> get
>>>> news like your sunday bulletin in email. Or find a new church. What a
>>>> terrible attitude that
>>>> the pastor has. Also if you give specifics, maybe we'll have
>>>> suggestions.
>>>> Unfortunately, some people assume we cannot participate or enjoy
>>>> something
>>>> due to the visuals, but we can with a description or another
>>>> accomodation.
>>>> They just don't know that though. Like many people say, oh how can you
>>>> enjoy
>>>> a movie or play? They don't know those can be audio described and some
>>>> films/plays are already descriptive enough via dialogue to follow them.
>>>>
>>>> Also, I suggest if you felt this way a while to get some help. Perhaps
>>>> some
>>>> counseling would help you feel better. Talk therapy, or psychotherapy,
>>>> helps
>>>> many people feel better.
>>>> Ashley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Andrew Edgcumbe
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 7:20 PM
>>>> To: Faith-talk
>>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] feeling like i am not important
>>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> I am just feeling some what discourraged to night and things.
>>>>
>>>> I been feeling like i am not really important to anybody at all.
>>>>
>>>> I am just struggling reguarding my church  One of my pastors  told me
>>>> that everything is visual and he just said there is nothing for me i
>>>> can even do because of the visual stuff in church and things.
>>>>
>>>> I just feel like i get treated so differently because of my blindness
>>>> and things I am sick of being blind I am sick of being  held back by
>>>> others I been feeling like I been told to just sit back and do
>>>> nothing.
>>>> I just feel like i don't really belong anywhere because of the way
>>>> the blind get treated.
>>>>
>>>> My church really does not give me the chance to use my gifts and
>>>> tallents and things.
>>>>
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