[Faith-talk] King james / audio Bibles

Wed Nov 16 01:11:26 UTC 2011

Hi,
Wow if it was 1982 its recent. I know the New king james was not really 
rewritten but updated/translated with
modern words.

Early modern English still used thou, thee, and thy. I recall from reading 
Shakespeare.
Early English sounds like a different language; I listened to it in 
intercultural communication. It sounds very foreign.
Middle English we recognize more of the words we have now and familiar 
grammar and syntax.

Okay so if King James is early modern English, what is the New King James 
written in? Standard English we know today?
If it was copyright 1982 I suspect that.
it was translated to words we know today.
If I remember correctly, before translated to English in the Middle Ages, 
the Bible was in Latin. Theerefore scholars and monks could only read it. 
Then I think Greek and German came next. Then Guttenberg copied the
bible with his invention of the printing press. Prior to that, monks 
transcribed then by hand and they were so valuable that they were either 
locked, stored, or chained up to prevent it from being stolen.

Thanks for explaining.

Ashley
I found King James hard to understand, but may give New king james a try 
since you say it was

-----Original Message----- 
From: Doris and Chris
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 7:34 PM
To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] King james / audio Bibles

Copyright for the nkjv is with Thomas Nelson
1982. It was not really "written" as much as it
was tranlsated and revised, which is a process
that usually takes several years.

The English used in the KJV or Shakespeare is not
Middle but early modern English. When reading
Middle English, you will not understand nearly as
much as with Shakespearean or KJV English.

Even for me as a non-native speaker, the kjv and
Shakespeare are quite readable and enjoyable.The
difficulty does not lie as much with the
readability of the language as in some changes in
usage that make some passages unclear.
additionally, while at the top of scholarship at
their time, more modern translations have access
to earlier manuscripts, i.e. earlier to to the
time of the early church and the earliest
versions of Christian writings, which by some
scholars are considered more reliable as there
was less of a chance of transcription   errors
being made than with later versions.

Finally, modern translationscan take into
accounts the most recent findings of archeology
and Biblical scholarship. For example, while the
original RSV (Revised Standard Version 1947/52)
is still considered one of the best scholarly and
most widely accepted translations, it did not -
could not - take into accounts recent discoveries
as the Dead Sea scrolls as those had just been discovered in the late 
1940's.

hth and God Bless,

Doris

At 07:08 PM 11/15/2011 -0500, you wrote:
>Do you know when the New king James was written? The king James was written 
>in 1600s I think and uses middle English, kind of like reading Shakespeare. 
>Ashley -----Original Message----- 
>From: Paul Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 10:58 PM To: Faith-talk,for the 
>discussion of faith and religion Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] audio Bibles 
>Ashley and all, a portable Bible that many have recommended is something 
>called the BibleCourier available from the Lutheran Braille Evangelism 
>Association in White Bear Lake, Minnesota.  You can call them for prices 
>and versions at 651-426-0469 or go to their website at http://www.lbea.org. 
>As to the New King James Version, it still retains some of the language of 
>the old KJV but with some modern renderings which make the meaning of some 
>words clearer.  For instance the word "prevent" actually means precede, and 
>there are other similar modifications.  But all pronouns referring to God, 
>The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are capitalized as in the KJV for two main 
>reasons, one to show respect to our Almighty God and also to clarify their 
>meaning which could be made more confusing without the capital letters.  In 
>Braille it's available from Braille Bibles International 
>(http://www.braillebibles.org.  It is also available from Bible Gateway 
>and, I believe, even a BibleCourier version of the nKJV is available.  Hope 
>that helps.  Paul ----- 
>Original Message ----- From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> 
>To: "for the discussion of faith and religion Faith-talk" 
><faith-talk at nfbnet.org> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 5:20 PM Subject: 
>[Faith-talk] audio Bibles > Hi all, > > Where can I get audio bibles? I am 
>thinking either CD or Mp3 format. > I also thought there was something that 
>contained the bible in one device > called a Pocket Bible or something like 
>that. > I have the Niv in braille. Iâ€™d like the Good News Bible. Also, 
>anyone read > the New King James? I know the King James is in older 
>English, but do not > know if the New King James is is a more modern 
>version or is easier to > understand. > I might want that version too. Not 
>sure. > > > Everyone else can have a bible in their purse and  its 
>portable. Braille > is not that portable though. But audio would be. > > 
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