[Faith-talk] An Addition to the Post on Claude Ely from Joshua

Sun Nov 27 02:27:43 UTC 2011

In little Southern Black churches, it's still practiced.
It's awesome!
Blessings, Joshua

On 11/26/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Joshua,
> I saw an example of lining in To Kill a mockingbird.
> So you're saying it is still practiced in black churches; that is
> interesting. Most churches have not kept their traditional practices.
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Lester
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 8:38 PM
> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] An Addition to the Post on Claude Ely from Joshua
>
> Lining is done in Black churches, in the "Dr Watts," Songs.
> For instance, I'd start off, if I were leading it with this.)
> "I love the lord, he heard my cry."
> Then, the congregation would go in, and hold it out, "I love the Lord,
> he heard my cry."
> Lead, "And pityed every grone," and the congregation would repeat, and
> draw out that phrase.
> Lead, "Long as I live, and troubles rise," (congregation repeats in
> same drawn out sounds.)
> Lead, "I'll hasten to his throne," congregation draws repeats and
> draws out that phrase, and ends the first verse.
> I'll find a Dr Watts song, and put it on here.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 11/26/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>> When Southern Gospel quartets used the style, it was only for piano
>> accompaniment.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 11/26/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Ryan,
>>> I am interested in sacred harp music and history. Ah, I should have
>>> remembered Sacred Harp was the name of a hymnal, not an instrument used;
>>> this music style has no  instruments. In fact, I think it was done in
>>> such
>>> a
>>> way not to require a hymnal. After all back then, not everyone could
>>> read.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ryan Kwaak
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 7:49 PM
>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] An Addition to the Post on Claude Ely from
>>> Joshua
>>>
>>> Brother Paul, I may take you up on that offer. I never thought there
>>> was anything substantive on those Internet chat services, but as long
>>> as you're doing a discussion on old-time music, I'll be glad to
>>> participate. Although the earliest recordings date back to only the
>>> 1950s, I have heard the aforementioned style of sacred harp music. It
>>> dates back to the late 1800s (possibly earlier than that) and usually
>>> revolved around a hymnal known as the Sacred Harp. Several years back,
>>> our local PBS station put out a documentary on it. As the film
>>> recounts, the typical sacred harp choir would stand in squares
>>> delegated by vocal abilities with the choir leader in the center
>>> square. According to historians interviewed by the film, the Sacred
>>> Harp hymnal ranked second in importance to the Bible in early southern
>>> congregations. I don't know if this film ever came out on DVD
>>> otherwise I'd track it down and upload it  somewhere
>>>
>>> On 11/26/11, Paul <oilofgladness47 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> As to whether or not they keep or have kept the master recordings,
>>>> you'll
>>>> just have to contact them directly.  Paul
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 6:22 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] An Addition to the Post on Claude Ely from
>>>> Joshua
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Folklife center! Ah that is the division I was trying to remember.
>>>>> Do they keep master recordings like the ones we're talking about?
>>>>> I have the ability to play cassettes and records of three different
>>>>> speeds
>>>>>
>>>>> at home. And I have a jukebox that plays 45 speed records too.
>>>>> Ashley
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Paul
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 6:04 PM
>>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] An Addition to the Post on Claude Ely from
>>>>> Joshua
>>>>>
>>>>> Joshua, I seriously doubt it does, as I'm not aware that they made CD
>>>>> copies
>>>>> of it.  However, you might try contacting the Folklife Center at the
>>>>> Library
>>>>> of Congress.  Their website may not help, so you might have to enlist
>>>>> the
>>>>> help of Directory Assistance for phone contact with that particular
>>>>> Division
>>>>> of the LOC (and believe me, they have plenty, in addition to NLS.
>>>>> However
>>>>> if you'd like to try to get the info directly from their Folklife
>>>>> Center,
>>>>> go
>>>>> to http://www.loc.gov/folklife.  Hope that helps, but don't be
>>>>> disappointed
>>>>> if you can't snag a copy of the album in question.  Paul
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 5:36 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] An Addition to the Post on Claude Ely from
>>>>> Joshua
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Does the library still have it?
>>>>>> I may be able to purchase the album from them.
>>>>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/26/11, Paul <oilofgladness47 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Well, Joshua, the only way I can get it to you, along with the other
>>>>>>> selections from that album, is by snail mail and via cassette as I
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> have any way of burning a CD from the album itself.  If you would
>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>> your address off list, will make you a copy and send it to you,
>>>>>>> albeit
>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>> snail mail, and I'm sure we know how slow that can be.  But, as I've
>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>> heard it said, better that way than not at all.  Paul
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>>>>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>>>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 3:36 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] An Addition to the Post on Claude Ely from
>>>>>>> Joshua
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the information!
>>>>>>>> I'm interested in this recording.
>>>>>>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/26/11, Paul <oilofgladness47 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> If anyone here has a copy of the album "Religious Songs,
>>>>>>>>> Congregational
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> Ceremonial," issued by the Library of Congress as part of their
>>>>>>>>> bicentennial
>>>>>>>>> celebration in 1976, Claude Ely's congregation is featured on the
>>>>>>>>> song
>>>>>>>>> "Little David, Play On Your Harp." The undersigned has that album.
>>>>>>>>> Paul
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