[Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site

Joshua Lester jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
Mon Nov 28 23:54:11 UTC 2011


Ashley:
I sent you the address to the UPC church in your area.
I'm not trying to push my beliefs on you, but please check out the
church I told you about, and E-mail me offlist, about your experience.
Thanks, Joshua

On 11/28/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Joshua,
> I'm not sure my opinion of predestination. Yes I have heard the phrase once
> saved, always saved.
> I went  over so many things in Sunday school. I think Methodists
> believe you have to believe in Christ as savior to be saved and go to heaven
> in the after life.
> Yes I have Baptist friends and some family is Baptist down south; they do
> believe in predestination.
>
> I'm interested in actually reading Wesley's sermons/commentarys and
> teachings but have not found any in accessible format.
> As to people that do sinful stuff on earth like you mentioned: smoking,
> overdrinking,
> having affairs, etc I wonder if they really go to heaven? I think only God
> knows.
> I believe one should follow the Bible and be an overall good person. One
> should volunteer in the community and serve the Lord.
> Doing harmful things to one's body such as smoking, drugs, and too much
> alcohol is sinful and IMO not living a Christian life.
>
> I'm pretty open to faith. I don't believe in what every preacher says. Nor
> do I subscribe to any one doctrine associated with one church branch. I grew
> up Methodist, but I think now I'm just a Christian and listen to several
> preachers. I will pick one church if I have kids as I want to raise them in
> one Protestant church. It will likely be Methodist. But who knows. It might
> be Baptist. Whereever I feel comfortable
> with the worship style and social atmosphere I'll go.
> For instance, I will not go to a service with so called Christian rock!
> Nor would I go to one wich did not use instruments for worship. I would want
> a pastor who quoted the scripture a lot.
>
>
> The after life and predestination stuff is a controversy in the Christianity
> branches.
> I guess its up to God to judge our lives.
>
> Ashley
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Lester
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 6:21 PM
> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>
> John Calvin was a Frenchman, that taught many false teachings.
> Here's a quote from Calvin, that turns me away from his doctrine.
> "There are babies in Hell, the size of the span of a man's hand."
> He believed in predestination.
> Most of your baptist friends, (mainly those of Charles Stanley's
> persuasion,) believe in some form of predestination.
> One form is Unconditional Eternal Security, which, (if you were a
> Wesleyan Methodist,) you would have heard the phrase, Once Saved
> Always Saved.
> This means, no matter what you do, you can still go to Heaven if you
> were once saved.
> This means, that there's no such thing as a backslider.
> You can smoke, drink, fornicate, and do everything in the world, and
> still make Heaven, while you're in sin.
> Whatever happened to holiness, and separation?
> I miss old time Holiness, and Wesleyan preaching!
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 11/28/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Jeannette,
>> Yes. When I heard him, he doesn't have a rambling style like some bible
>> teachers.
>> He also backs up what he says with tons of scripture as well as the
>> historical
>> context. That is what is appealing. I also listen to other preachers of
>> the
>> Baptist faith and nondenominational ones as well on our Christian radio
>> station. I like them for various reasons. People such as Charles Stanley
>> and
>> David Jeremiah are just a few of them.
>> So he is a Calvinist. I didn't know that before this list; the radio
>> station
>> did not say, so I thought he might be nondenominational.
>> What does that mean? I know there was a guy named something Calvin after
>> the
>> Protestant reformation. But its been so long since I studied the Middle
>> ages
>> and Renaissance that I forget what exactly Calvin did or what he founded.
>> He
>> was British is what I recall.
>>
>> What is this  monthly teaching on CD about? Is it free?
>> The website did have some articles from the magazine, but I don't believe
>> it’s
>> the full magazine.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jeanette
>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 5:11 PM
>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>>
>> i have heard that the classes are accessable, if not i am sure they would
>> work to see that they could be, R.C. Sproul is amazing, i get his monthly
>> teaching on cd and enjoy it a lot, he is amazing and so knowledgable in
>> the
>> Bible, he is  of course a Calvinist, and all of his teachings are backed
>> up
>> by tons and tons of scripture in context with historical info  included, i
>> do get the monthly magazine which is easy to read with kurzweil.
>> ligonier.org is how i think it is spelled, let me go look.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> To: "for the discussion of faith and religion Faith-talk"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 12:22 PM
>> Subject: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Jeanette said in the magazine thread
>>>
>>> you can also go on ligoneir.org to read the Tabletalk magazine by R. C.
>>> Sproul if he is your cup of tea.
>>>
>>> I think this is the wrong spelling as that site did not work. Anyone know
>>> his site? I was on it one time but forget its address; I linked from one
>>> website to his.
>>> He is good; I listen to his study broadcast called Renewing your mind.
>>> I don’t think the Tabletalk magazine is fully online; but better some
>>> than
>>>
>>> none. The articles are the current issue, but it’s a sampling of the hard
>>> copy magazine.
>>>
>>> Also has anyone taken his bible online classes? Are they accessible? I
>>> don’t
>>> have time to do it now, but might someday and was curious to know if it
>>> worked with screen readers.
>>>
>>> Ashley
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