[Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site

Wed Nov 30 23:53:04 UTC 2011

Yes.
They're known as Episkipalians, now.
Blessings, Joshua

On 11/30/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> oh this answers one question. So terms "church of england" and "anglican"
> are the same.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 5:52 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>
> The Wesley family were all Anglican or members of the Church of England.
> Paul
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 4:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
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>
> Joshua,
> Do you mean John Wesley?
> What does he have to do with George Fox?
> You said you read Calvinist and Quaker preachers and then mention these
> names.
>
> If we are talking about the same Wesley, he founded the Methodist church,
> but may have been Quaker; not sure.
> His teachings do line up with scripture.
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Lester
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 6:46 PM
> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>
> Predestination is for the church, as a group, not individual predestination.
> I have read writings by both Calvinists, and Quaker preachers, (I came
> out of the Quaker church.)
> I find Wesley's beliefs supported with scripture, and in my oppinion,
> Wesley, and George Fox line up more with scripture, than Calvin.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 11/28/11, Jeanette <nettiecosp at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> gee joshua here we go again with you judging folks and telling us who is
>> wrong and who is right, you are blessed that the folks on here who do not
>> agree with you don't call your favorite teachers such things, once again
>> you
>> do not understand the calvinist teachings, you are taking one scripture
>> and
>> trying to create doctrine out of it or listening to folks and taking their
>> word for it, you need to read all scripture in context, once saved always
>> saved is a very missunderstood doctrine as well, if a person is saved and
>> back slides permanently then maybe they were never actually saved, and the
>> idea of predestination is supported by just as many scriptures as your
>> beliefs are supported by, so it is up to each of us as Christians who have
>> the Holy Spirit dwelling is us to read, pray and listen to teachings and
>> discern what we believ to be true, it is overwhelmingly irritating to have
>> you a very very young person and a very very young Christian to sit here
>> and
>> tell us all what is true and what is not true, you are not the end all be
>> all authority, and you just keep insulting folks and judging them based on
>> what you ahve been taught, others might think you are wrong and
>> missinformed
>> you know? be kind and gentle in spirit, you can share your beliefs but as
>> has been said before on this list, quit telling us what is a fact based on
>> your own personal beliefs
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 4:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>>
>>
>> John Calvin was a Frenchman, that taught many false teachings.
>> Here's a quote from Calvin, that turns me away from his doctrine.
>> "There are babies in Hell, the size of the span of a man's hand."
>> He believed in predestination.
>> Most of your baptist friends, (mainly those of Charles Stanley's
>> persuasion,) believe in some form of predestination.
>> One form is Unconditional Eternal Security, which, (if you were a
>> Wesleyan Methodist,) you would have heard the phrase, Once Saved
>> Always Saved.
>> This means, no matter what you do, you can still go to Heaven if you
>> were once saved.
>> This means, that there's no such thing as a backslider.
>> You can smoke, drink, fornicate, and do everything in the world, and
>> still make Heaven, while you're in sin.
>> Whatever happened to holiness, and separation?
>> I miss old time Holiness, and Wesleyan preaching!
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 11/28/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Jeannette,
>>> Yes. When I heard him, he doesn't have a rambling style like some bible
>>> teachers.
>>> He also backs up what he says with tons of scripture as well as the
>>> historical
>>> context. That is what is appealing. I also listen to other preachers of
>>> the
>>> Baptist faith and nondenominational ones as well on our Christian radio
>>> station. I like them for various reasons. People such as Charles Stanley
>>> and
>>> David Jeremiah are just a few of them.
>>> So he is a Calvinist. I didn't know that before this list; the radio
>>> station
>>> did not say, so I thought he might be nondenominational.
>>> What does that mean? I know there was a guy named something Calvin after
>>> the
>>> Protestant reformation. But its been so long since I studied the Middle
>>> ages
>>> and Renaissance that I forget what exactly Calvin did or what he founded.
>>> He
>>> was British is what I recall.
>>>
>>> What is this  monthly teaching on CD about? Is it free?
>>> The website did have some articles from the magazine, but I don't believe
>>> it’s
>>> the full magazine.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jeanette
>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 5:11 PM
>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>>>
>>> i have heard that the classes are accessable, if not i am sure they would
>>> work to see that they could be, R.C. Sproul is amazing, i get his monthly
>>> teaching on cd and enjoy it a lot, he is amazing and so knowledgable in
>>> the
>>> Bible, he is  of course a Calvinist, and all of his teachings are backed
>>> up
>>> by tons and tons of scripture in context with historical info  included,
>>> i
>>> do get the monthly magazine which is easy to read with kurzweil.
>>> ligonier.org is how i think it is spelled, let me go look.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>> To: "for the discussion of faith and religion Faith-talk"
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 12:22 PM
>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Jeanette said in the magazine thread
>>>>
>>>> you can also go on ligoneir.org to read the Tabletalk magazine by R. C.
>>>> Sproul if he is your cup of tea.
>>>>
>>>> I think this is the wrong spelling as that site did not work. Anyone
>>>> know
>>>> his site? I was on it one time but forget its address; I linked from one
>>>> website to his.
>>>> He is good; I listen to his study broadcast called Renewing your mind.
>>>> I don’t think the Tabletalk magazine is fully online; but better some
>>>> than
>>>>
>>>> none. The articles are the current issue, but it’s a sampling of the
>>>> hard
>>>> copy magazine.
>>>>
>>>> Also has anyone taken his bible online classes? Are they accessible? I
>>>> don’t
>>>> have time to do it now, but might someday and was curious to know if it
>>>> worked with screen readers.
>>>>
>>>> Ashley
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