[Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site

Wed Nov 30 23:49:25 UTC 2011

oh this answers one question. So terms "church of england" and "anglican" 
are the same.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Paul
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 5:52 PM
To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site

The Wesley family were all Anglican or members of the Church of England.
Paul
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site

Joshua,
Do you mean John Wesley?
What does he have to do with George Fox?
You said you read Calvinist and Quaker preachers and then mention these
names.

If we are talking about the same Wesley, he founded the Methodist church,
but may have been Quaker; not sure.
His teachings do line up with scripture.

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Joshua Lester
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 6:46 PM
To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site

Predestination is for the church, as a group, not individual predestination.
I have read writings by both Calvinists, and Quaker preachers, (I came
out of the Quaker church.)
I find Wesley's beliefs supported with scripture, and in my oppinion,
Wesley, and George Fox line up more with scripture, than Calvin.
Blessings, Joshua

On 11/28/11, Jeanette <nettiecosp at yahoo.com> wrote:
> gee joshua here we go again with you judging folks and telling us who is
> wrong and who is right, you are blessed that the folks on here who do not
> agree with you don't call your favorite teachers such things, once again 
> you
> do not understand the calvinist teachings, you are taking one scripture 
> and
> trying to create doctrine out of it or listening to folks and taking their
> word for it, you need to read all scripture in context, once saved always
> saved is a very missunderstood doctrine as well, if a person is saved and
> back slides permanently then maybe they were never actually saved, and the
> idea of predestination is supported by just as many scriptures as your
> beliefs are supported by, so it is up to each of us as Christians who have
> the Holy Spirit dwelling is us to read, pray and listen to teachings and
> discern what we believ to be true, it is overwhelmingly irritating to have
> you a very very young person and a very very young Christian to sit here 
> and
> tell us all what is true and what is not true, you are not the end all be
> all authority, and you just keep insulting folks and judging them based on
> what you ahve been taught, others might think you are wrong and 
> missinformed
> you know? be kind and gentle in spirit, you can share your beliefs but as
> has been said before on this list, quit telling us what is a fact based on
> your own personal beliefs
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 4:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>
>
> John Calvin was a Frenchman, that taught many false teachings.
> Here's a quote from Calvin, that turns me away from his doctrine.
> "There are babies in Hell, the size of the span of a man's hand."
> He believed in predestination.
> Most of your baptist friends, (mainly those of Charles Stanley's
> persuasion,) believe in some form of predestination.
> One form is Unconditional Eternal Security, which, (if you were a
> Wesleyan Methodist,) you would have heard the phrase, Once Saved
> Always Saved.
> This means, no matter what you do, you can still go to Heaven if you
> were once saved.
> This means, that there's no such thing as a backslider.
> You can smoke, drink, fornicate, and do everything in the world, and
> still make Heaven, while you're in sin.
> Whatever happened to holiness, and separation?
> I miss old time Holiness, and Wesleyan preaching!
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 11/28/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Jeannette,
>> Yes. When I heard him, he doesn't have a rambling style like some bible
>> teachers.
>> He also backs up what he says with tons of scripture as well as the
>> historical
>> context. That is what is appealing. I also listen to other preachers of
>> the
>> Baptist faith and nondenominational ones as well on our Christian radio
>> station. I like them for various reasons. People such as Charles Stanley
>> and
>> David Jeremiah are just a few of them.
>> So he is a Calvinist. I didn't know that before this list; the radio
>> station
>> did not say, so I thought he might be nondenominational.
>> What does that mean? I know there was a guy named something Calvin after
>> the
>> Protestant reformation. But its been so long since I studied the Middle
>> ages
>> and Renaissance that I forget what exactly Calvin did or what he founded.
>> He
>> was British is what I recall.
>>
>> What is this  monthly teaching on CD about? Is it free?
>> The website did have some articles from the magazine, but I don't believe
>> it’s
>> the full magazine.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jeanette
>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 5:11 PM
>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>>
>> i have heard that the classes are accessable, if not i am sure they would
>> work to see that they could be, R.C. Sproul is amazing, i get his monthly
>> teaching on cd and enjoy it a lot, he is amazing and so knowledgable in
>> the
>> Bible, he is  of course a Calvinist, and all of his teachings are backed
>> up
>> by tons and tons of scripture in context with historical info  included, 
>> i
>> do get the monthly magazine which is easy to read with kurzweil.
>> ligonier.org is how i think it is spelled, let me go look.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> To: "for the discussion of faith and religion Faith-talk"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 12:22 PM
>> Subject: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Jeanette said in the magazine thread
>>>
>>> you can also go on ligoneir.org to read the Tabletalk magazine by R. C.
>>> Sproul if he is your cup of tea.
>>>
>>> I think this is the wrong spelling as that site did not work. Anyone 
>>> know
>>> his site? I was on it one time but forget its address; I linked from one
>>> website to his.
>>> He is good; I listen to his study broadcast called Renewing your mind.
>>> I don’t think the Tabletalk magazine is fully online; but better some
>>> than
>>>
>>> none. The articles are the current issue, but it’s a sampling of the 
>>> hard
>>> copy magazine.
>>>
>>> Also has anyone taken his bible online classes? Are they accessible? I
>>> don’t
>>> have time to do it now, but might someday and was curious to know if it
>>> worked with screen readers.
>>>
>>> Ashley
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