[Faith-talk] Halloween
Jeanette
nettiecosp at yahoo.com
Thu Oct 6 16:57:14 UTC 2011
well i know lots of good christian families whose children have
participated in trick or treaiting for years and the children are good
Christian people, please remember many many of us grew up in this way and
are fine, i think that it is all about how it si presented. i did not let
my small children have anything to do with it, we lived on a very small
island and it was one of the two biggest holiday celebrations on the island.
my kids had lots of friends who did the trick or treat thing, we did not
hand out candy til my kids were quite a bit older.
\they were taught the origins of halloween and understood that the way we
participated in it was purely a dress up thing and candy.
if the kids parents are not involved with the kids at all and don't tell
them anything other than to send them to school and to parties, there are
much bigger issues with those kids than just the celebrating of halloween.
as a parent of teen age children, 19, 17, and 15, i can tell you that the
participating in the school activities when the kids are older is not a huge
deal.
we are blessed here in our district they let the kids dress up if they
want, no evil costumes, no horror stuff, it has to be fun stuff and it
isoptional, lots of the kids don't dress up, my bosy never did, my daughter
dressed up as Sarah Palin the one year that she did. i do not feel they are
damaged or wrongly influenced by any of this, we have studied the origins of
halloween and i am comfortable with it.
i would be curious to what those of you with children have to say abot
this. there is always a lot of discussion among folks with no kids what
they think is right or wrong but until you have actually lived through it it
is all purely idealism in my opinion and i have dealt with a lot of this
over the years. jeanette
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nikki" <daizies304 at comcast.net>
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Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Halloween
> Amen.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Edgcumbe
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 9:35 AM
> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Halloween
>
> john I dis agree with you hallow wean is very harmful kids are
> getting exposed to whichcraft when they get taken out to trick or
> treat because they see all these things like ghosts or goblins to say
> to a child that stuff is real or whatever is lying as well.
>
>
>
> the other wrong part to hallow wean is we are introducing kids to
> evil and saying it is okay to the kids that which craft is fine.
>
> On 10/6/11, John J. Boyer <john at godtouches.org> wrote:
>> I think Halloween is harmless. After all, nobody believes in that stuff.
>> Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny are much worse. Parents lie to their
>> children, and these two mythical beings obscure the true meaning of
>> Christmas and Easter. No flames, please.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 07:33:43AM -0500, Joshua Lester wrote:
>>> The Catholics started it, with an "All Hallows Eve."
>>> They honored their ancestors, but the druids from the Occult took the
>>> holiday, and turned it into a gory day, with ghost, goblins, and the
>>> like.
>>> John Hagee did a doccumentary on it, but it isn't available anymore.
>>> Sister Jeanette, you may have connections to his ministry, being that
>>> you're originally from Texas.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 10/5/11, Nikki <daizies304 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> > Do you have kids?
>>> > Do you celebrate it?
>>> > Do you allow your kids to dress up and attend any school parties?
>>> > What is your take on this?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Note the Halloween is a High Holy day amongst the Wiccan (Witchcraft)
>>> > religion.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Death
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Gravestones, skeletons, gruesome undead themes. So much though that it
>>> > seems
>>> > Halloween is a worship of death and the grave. Why the fascination
>>> > with
>>> > that?
>>> >
>>> > Do we not serve the king of Life, who has over come death, hell and
>>> > the
>>> > grave? Should the children of life participate in a celebration of
>>> > death?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > The Philipians 4:8 Test is a doctrinally sound application of
>>> > scripture
>>> > Lets
>>> > us apply that to Halloween (You Answer Them!):
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are
>>> > honest,
>>> > whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever
>>> > things
>>> > are
>>> >
>>> > lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue,
>>> > and if
>>> > there be any praise, think on these things.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 1. What is true about Halloween?
>>> >
>>> > 2. What is Just About Halloween and it's trappings and traditions?
>>> >
>>> > 3. Is there any purity in participating in a day of celebration with
>>> > so
>>> > much
>>> > that is blatantly wicked about it?
>>> >
>>> > 4. What is lovely about costumes portraying axe murderers, or
>>> > gravestones
>>> > with skulls on them?
>>> >
>>> > 5. Is there a good report to be had in overt occult representations?
>>> >
>>> > 6. What virtue is available in taking part in a day of sinful
>>> > reveling?
>>> >
>>> > 7. What is praiseworthy about these activities?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > FELLOWSHIP ACTIVITIES SHOULD BE THE FOCUS IN THE BODY OF CHRIST.
>>> > ESPECIALLY
>>> > ON HOLIDAYS LIKE HOLLOWEEN.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for any input.
>>> >
>>> > God bless you.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>> --
>> John J. Boyer, Executive Director
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>> http://www.godtouches.org
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>>
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