[Faith-talk] Halloween

Thu Oct 6 17:02:06 UTC 2011

well now, that is interesting, most of the kids who come by my house over 
the last  few years are dressed as movie characters, princesses, kings and 
such, once again it is the assumption that it is all evil, ridiculous.
like i said until you have raised children you really have no understanding 
of what is gong on, the most part, at least in my experience the kids who go 
trick or treating in my area are doing it for fun, to say you never dress up 
is silliness.
 as Christians we do not need to be fanatics about everything do we?
 we are to be in the world and not of the world.  God sees our hearts and 
the outside is not the end allbe all.
 i do not for one minute think that other folks who allow their little kids 
to do halloween are bad Christians or not Christians at all. ridiculous.
to many folks this is a family deal, now when my kids were young i had the 
same ideas and felt it was wrong, i wanted to protect them from the evil 
influence and i kept them at home, may be that the older kids in high school 
did the evil costume parties and such, there were certainly kids wo did 
wheni was growing up but i never had anythig to do with it.
 like i said, many of us grew up doing these things and as far as i know i 
am o.k. and didn't suffer at the hands of anything evil and frankly until i 
had kids and began researching it i hade no idea of any of the evil or 
witchcraft associated with it.
 and no, lots of girls who dress up as witches have odesire to be a withc, i 
knew lots of girls who did and they are fine Christian womena t this point 
and were well behaved kids at the time. jeanette
----- Original Message ----- 
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>        But aren't you lieing to the world about who you are when you dress 
> up
> as something you are not?
>
> People on halloween pick costumes based upon their inward desires. Many is 
> the girl dressed as a witch who wishes she was one, many is the boy 
> dressed
> as a pirate who would dearly love to be that. The Bible tells us to 
> abstain from the very appearance of evil. How then is dressing the part of 
> something
> evil good and wholesome?
>
> Excuse: But all that imagery doesn't mean anything, it is all in fun!
>
> Answer: The imagery is there because it does in fact mean something. It is 
> a representation of the inward desires of the flesh of the celebrants. 
> Read
> Galatians 5:19-21
> . Many of those things listed as works of the flesh, that will keep us 
> from being with Jesus are simply "all in fun."
>
> I will repeat my added phrase... You can live in this world, but not be a 
> part of it. There's a difference.
> -Original Message----- 
> From: Julie McGinnity
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 9:23 AM
> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Halloween
>
> I'm glad John said it!
>
> Now...  My logic may not make sense to some of you, but I think that
> Halloween is a good way of showing children that things like witches
> and vampires are not real.  After all, when you dress up in costume,
> the whole point is to dress up as something you are not, and I don't
> see anything wrong with playing pretend as a kid.  I think studying
> the roots of Halloween is a great idea though.  I was never taught as
> a kid where it came from, and I think it would have been so neat to
> me.
>
> I also agree about Santa and the Easter bunny.  Lying is wrong...
> It's that simple...
>
> On 10/6/11, John J. Boyer <john at godtouches.org> wrote:
>> I think Halloween is harmless. After all, nobody believes in that stuff.
>> Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny are much worse. Parents lie to their
>> children, and these two mythical beings obscure the true meaning of
>> Christmas and Easter. No flames, please.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 07:33:43AM -0500, Joshua Lester wrote:
>>> The Catholics started it, with an "All Hallows Eve."
>>> They honored their ancestors, but the druids from the Occult took the
>>> holiday, and turned it into a gory day, with ghost, goblins, and the
>>> like.
>>> John Hagee did a doccumentary on it, but it isn't available anymore.
>>> Sister Jeanette, you may have connections to his ministry, being that
>>> you're originally from Texas.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 10/5/11, Nikki <daizies304 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> >         Do you have kids?
>>> > Do you celebrate it?
>>> > Do you allow your kids to dress up and attend any school parties?
>>> > What is your take on this?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Note the Halloween is a High Holy day amongst the Wiccan (Witchcraft)
>>> > religion.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Death
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Gravestones, skeletons, gruesome undead themes. So much though that it
>>> > seems
>>> > Halloween is a worship of death and the grave. Why the fascination 
>>> > with
>>> > that?
>>> >
>>> > Do we not serve the king of Life, who has over come death, hell and 
>>> > the
>>> > grave? Should the children of life participate in a celebration of
>>> > death?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > The Philipians 4:8 Test is a doctrinally sound application of 
>>> > scripture
>>> > Lets
>>> > us apply that to Halloween (You Answer Them!):
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are
>>> > honest,
>>> > whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever
>>> > things
>>> > are
>>> >
>>> > lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue,
>>> > and if
>>> > there be any praise, think on these things.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 1. What is true about Halloween?
>>> >
>>> > 2. What is Just About Halloween and it's trappings and traditions?
>>> >
>>> > 3. Is there any purity in participating in a day of celebration with 
>>> > so
>>> > much
>>> > that is blatantly wicked about it?
>>> >
>>> > 4. What is lovely about costumes portraying axe murderers, or
>>> > gravestones
>>> > with skulls on them?
>>> >
>>> > 5. Is there a good report to be had in overt occult representations?
>>> >
>>> > 6. What virtue is available in taking part in a day of sinful 
>>> > reveling?
>>> >
>>> > 7. What is praiseworthy about these activities?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > FELLOWSHIP ACTIVITIES SHOULD BE THE FOCUS IN THE BODY OF CHRIST.
>>> > ESPECIALLY
>>> > ON HOLIDAYS LIKE HOLLOWEEN.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for any input.
>>> >
>>> > God bless you.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>> --
>> John J. Boyer, Executive Director
>> GodTouches Digital Ministry, Inc.
>> http://www.godtouches.org
>> Madison, Wisconsin, USA
>> Peace, Love, Service
>>
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>
> -- 
> Julie McG
> Lindbergh High School class of 2009, participating member in Opera
> Theater's Artist in Training Program, and proud graduate of Guiding
> Eyes for the Blind
>
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
> life."
> John 3:16
>
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