[Faith-talk] ABout healing

Sun Sep 11 23:24:57 UTC 2011

It's how we live, that glorifies God, or not.
It isn't the condition, itself.
If Stevie Wonder was glorifying God, with the tallents he was given,
then I'd say, because of his disability, he'd be an inspiration for
sighted people, and as a fellow blind person, I can say, if he could
overcome the odds, I can too.
He isn't glorifying God, because he's using his tallent, (which God
gave him,) in worldly music.
His story still inspires me, to keep moving, and overcome, but he
isn't glorifying God.
Blessings, Joshua

On 9/11/11, Jeanette <nettiecosp at yahoo.com> wrote:
> God created us and He s=does not make istakes to say that God cannot be
> glorified through blindness is stupidity in my opinion, i truly belive that
> my blindness is a blessing and has been, do i wish i could see better? for
> sure, but i am content to know God could heal me if He chose to but He also
> uses my blindness to glorify Him in many ways.
>  Greg thanks so much for sharing this wonderful story. our God is an awesome
> God and makes no mistakes. Jeanette
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Greg Aikens" <gpaikens at gmail.com>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
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> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 4:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] ABout healing
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>> Hi Joshua,
>> Let me start by affirming my belief that God can and does heal people in
>> miraculous ways.  With that said, I take serious issue with your statement
>>
>> that God is not glorified through blindness.  Such a statement limits
>> God's power and belittles blind people.
>>
>> One of the most powerful messages I find in the Bible is that God works
>> despite, and through human weakness.  Sometimes he heals, makes strong,
>> and overcomes human weakness.  But other times, he uses those things
>> people think are weak or foolish, and his power is revealed to be all the
>> more strong.  Reread 1 Corinthians 1 and 2 Corinthians 12 for a start.
>> Many argue that the thorn in Paul's flesh in 2 Corinthians 12 was some
>> kind of physical disability.  Paul makes it clear that whatever the thorn
>> was did bring God glory though.
>>
>> For years I  prayed for physical healing of my eyes.  I still believe God
>> can do that if he wants to.  But I had an experience that changed my
>> understanding of God working through my physical weakness.  3 years ago I
>> travelled to a country in Central Asia to work with children with
>> disabilities for a month.  The country is quite hostile toward Americans
>> and christianity.  However, my blindness was a key that opened many doors
>> to connect with people I might not have otherwise met.  Because I was
>> blind, people got over their hatred for Americans and approached me to
>> find out why a blind man had travelled so far to their country.  This led
>> to several redemptive conversations.  The children with disabilities had
>> never been exposed to a successful adult with a disability, and so my mere
>>
>> presence and existence gave them hope for their own lives.  I was
>> overwhelmed because my greatest tool overseas was my blindness.  God had
>> equipped me perfectly to reach out to people whom others can not reach.
>>
>> Don't stop praying for healing, just make sure you are reading all of your
>>
>> Bible.  God heals people in miraculous ways and is glorified.  He also
>> equips people to live despite disability or "weakness" which also gives
>> him glory.  I suspect that most of us on this list fall into that second
>> category.  Don't be so quick to dismiss the idea that God can use our
>> blindness to bring about his kingdom.
>>
>> God bless,
>> Greg
>> On Sep 10, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Joshua Lester wrote:
>>
>>> Jesus said, that greater things, shall we do, in his name.
>>> When the church walks into the power, and anointing, God has for us,
>>> we will see an increase, in signs, wonders, and miracles.
>>> This anointing isn't just for preachers, (Oral Roberts, Katherine
>>> Kullman, Franklin Walden, Lee Stoneking, etc,) but it's for anyone,
>>> that believes.
>>> Read Mark 16:15/18 again.
>>> Do you believe?
>>> Then, these signs shall follow you.
>>> You've got to have the Holy Ghost in you, and it must come upon you,
>>> (Acts, 1:8,) for that to happen.
>>> This Gospel must be preached, with signs following, as the apostles did.
>>> "If we want, what the apostles had, we must do what the apostles did,"
>>> (Pastor Steve Gray.)
>>> BTW, I don't believe, that my blindness is because of a lack of faith.
>>> Jesus told the blind man, that his was so that God could be glorified.
>>> He's not glorified in blindness, but rather our healing.
>>> Notice, Jesus healed him.
>>> If I never receive my sight, I'm okay with that, but I'm believing
>>> that I will, as a sign to those Jewish men, I refered to, in the other
>>> thread.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 9/10/11, Nikki <daizies304 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>    Joshua, just out of curiosity, does it say this in the Bible?
>>>> And what importance does Katherine Kulman have, to say this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 2:30 PM
>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] ABout healing
>>>>
>>>> There is coming a time, before the coming of the Lord, when everyone,
>>>> will be healed, in a church service.
>>>> I'm refering to physical healing.
>>>> This was prophesied, by none other than Katherine Kulman.
>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>
>>>> On 9/9/11, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> HI listers: As I understand it (relating to the incident of the boy in
>>>>> the
>>>>> wheelchair being able to walk) God heals us though maybe not in ways we
>>>>> understand. I say this because I've always wanted to be a medical
>>>>> doctor,
>>>>> but because of blindness wasn't able to accomplish the career studying
>>>>> instead Psychology. Yes I managed to finish and graduate, but still
>>>>> felt
>>>>> an
>>>>> emptiness of not being able to study medicine.
>>>>>
>>>>> The years went by, and a bad experience of the director not wanting me
>>>>> in
>>>>> a
>>>>> postgrad course of psychology brought me to study Reiki, therapy having
>>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>> do with energy and hands on. Thus I understand that though I wasn't
>>>>> able
>>>>> to
>>>>> study medicine, God has given me (and is still giving me) ways to
>>>>> compensate
>>>>> for this, thus healing the sense of loss of not being able to study a
>>>>> given
>>>>> career. Am I on the right track?
>>>>>
>>>>> Gerardo
>>>>>
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