[Faith-talk] ABout healing

Jeanette nettiecosp at yahoo.com
Sun Sep 11 23:50:30 UTC 2011 

how judgemental are you? he  isn't glorifying god because you have 
determined he isn't wow, that's scary, Jeanette
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
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Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] ABout healing


> It's how we live, that glorifies God, or not.
> It isn't the condition, itself.
> If Stevie Wonder was glorifying God, with the tallents he was given,
> then I'd say, because of his disability, he'd be an inspiration for
> sighted people, and as a fellow blind person, I can say, if he could
> overcome the odds, I can too.
> He isn't glorifying God, because he's using his tallent, (which God
> gave him,) in worldly music.
> His story still inspires me, to keep moving, and overcome, but he
> isn't glorifying God.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 9/11/11, Jeanette <nettiecosp at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> God created us and He s=does not make istakes to say that God cannot be
>> glorified through blindness is stupidity in my opinion, i truly belive 
>> that
>> my blindness is a blessing and has been, do i wish i could see better? 
>> for
>> sure, but i am content to know God could heal me if He chose to but He 
>> also
>> uses my blindness to glorify Him in many ways.
>>  Greg thanks so much for sharing this wonderful story. our God is an 
>> awesome
>> God and makes no mistakes. Jeanette
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Greg Aikens" <gpaikens at gmail.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 4:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] ABout healing
>>
>>
>>> Hi Joshua,
>>> Let me start by affirming my belief that God can and does heal people in
>>> miraculous ways.  With that said, I take serious issue with your 
>>> statement
>>>
>>> that God is not glorified through blindness.  Such a statement limits
>>> God's power and belittles blind people.
>>>
>>> One of the most powerful messages I find in the Bible is that God works
>>> despite, and through human weakness.  Sometimes he heals, makes strong,
>>> and overcomes human weakness.  But other times, he uses those things
>>> people think are weak or foolish, and his power is revealed to be all 
>>> the
>>> more strong.  Reread 1 Corinthians 1 and 2 Corinthians 12 for a start.
>>> Many argue that the thorn in Paul's flesh in 2 Corinthians 12 was some
>>> kind of physical disability.  Paul makes it clear that whatever the 
>>> thorn
>>> was did bring God glory though.
>>>
>>> For years I  prayed for physical healing of my eyes.  I still believe 
>>> God
>>> can do that if he wants to.  But I had an experience that changed my
>>> understanding of God working through my physical weakness.  3 years ago 
>>> I
>>> travelled to a country in Central Asia to work with children with
>>> disabilities for a month.  The country is quite hostile toward Americans
>>> and christianity.  However, my blindness was a key that opened many 
>>> doors
>>> to connect with people I might not have otherwise met.  Because I was
>>> blind, people got over their hatred for Americans and approached me to
>>> find out why a blind man had travelled so far to their country.  This 
>>> led
>>> to several redemptive conversations.  The children with disabilities had
>>> never been exposed to a successful adult with a disability, and so my 
>>> mere
>>>
>>> presence and existence gave them hope for their own lives.  I was
>>> overwhelmed because my greatest tool overseas was my blindness.  God had
>>> equipped me perfectly to reach out to people whom others can not reach.
>>>
>>> Don't stop praying for healing, just make sure you are reading all of 
>>> your
>>>
>>> Bible.  God heals people in miraculous ways and is glorified.  He also
>>> equips people to live despite disability or "weakness" which also gives
>>> him glory.  I suspect that most of us on this list fall into that second
>>> category.  Don't be so quick to dismiss the idea that God can use our
>>> blindness to bring about his kingdom.
>>>
>>> God bless,
>>> Greg
>>> On Sep 10, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Joshua Lester wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jesus said, that greater things, shall we do, in his name.
>>>> When the church walks into the power, and anointing, God has for us,
>>>> we will see an increase, in signs, wonders, and miracles.
>>>> This anointing isn't just for preachers, (Oral Roberts, Katherine
>>>> Kullman, Franklin Walden, Lee Stoneking, etc,) but it's for anyone,
>>>> that believes.
>>>> Read Mark 16:15/18 again.
>>>> Do you believe?
>>>> Then, these signs shall follow you.
>>>> You've got to have the Holy Ghost in you, and it must come upon you,
>>>> (Acts, 1:8,) for that to happen.
>>>> This Gospel must be preached, with signs following, as the apostles 
>>>> did.
>>>> "If we want, what the apostles had, we must do what the apostles did,"
>>>> (Pastor Steve Gray.)
>>>> BTW, I don't believe, that my blindness is because of a lack of faith.
>>>> Jesus told the blind man, that his was so that God could be glorified.
>>>> He's not glorified in blindness, but rather our healing.
>>>> Notice, Jesus healed him.
>>>> If I never receive my sight, I'm okay with that, but I'm believing
>>>> that I will, as a sign to those Jewish men, I refered to, in the other
>>>> thread.
>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>
>>>> On 9/10/11, Nikki <daizies304 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>    Joshua, just out of curiosity, does it say this in the Bible?
>>>>> And what importance does Katherine Kulman have, to say this?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 2:30 PM
>>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] ABout healing
>>>>>
>>>>> There is coming a time, before the coming of the Lord, when everyone,
>>>>> will be healed, in a church service.
>>>>> I'm refering to physical healing.
>>>>> This was prophesied, by none other than Katherine Kulman.
>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/9/11, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> HI listers: As I understand it (relating to the incident of the boy 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> wheelchair being able to walk) God heals us though maybe not in ways 
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> understand. I say this because I've always wanted to be a medical
>>>>>> doctor,
>>>>>> but because of blindness wasn't able to accomplish the career 
>>>>>> studying
>>>>>> instead Psychology. Yes I managed to finish and graduate, but still
>>>>>> felt
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> emptiness of not being able to study medicine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The years went by, and a bad experience of the director not wanting 
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> postgrad course of psychology brought me to study Reiki, therapy 
>>>>>> having
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> do with energy and hands on. Thus I understand that though I wasn't
>>>>>> able
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> study medicine, God has given me (and is still giving me) ways to
>>>>>> compensate
>>>>>> for this, thus healing the sense of loss of not being able to study a
>>>>>> given
>>>>>> career. Am I on the right track?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gerardo
>>>>>>
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