[Faith-talk] ABout healing

Sun Sep 11 23:58:01 UTC 2011

These guys are glorifying God.
http://www.blindboys.com
Blessings, Joshua

On 9/11/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
> Secular music doesn't glorify God.
> You have to sing Christian music, to glorify Christ.
> It's worship to him.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 9/11/11, Jeanette <nettiecosp at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> how judgemental are you? he  isn't glorifying god because you have
>> determined he isn't wow, that's scary, Jeanette
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] ABout healing
>>
>>
>>> It's how we live, that glorifies God, or not.
>>> It isn't the condition, itself.
>>> If Stevie Wonder was glorifying God, with the tallents he was given,
>>> then I'd say, because of his disability, he'd be an inspiration for
>>> sighted people, and as a fellow blind person, I can say, if he could
>>> overcome the odds, I can too.
>>> He isn't glorifying God, because he's using his tallent, (which God
>>> gave him,) in worldly music.
>>> His story still inspires me, to keep moving, and overcome, but he
>>> isn't glorifying God.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 9/11/11, Jeanette <nettiecosp at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> God created us and He s=does not make istakes to say that God cannot be
>>>> glorified through blindness is stupidity in my opinion, i truly belive
>>>> that
>>>> my blindness is a blessing and has been, do i wish i could see better?
>>>> for
>>>> sure, but i am content to know God could heal me if He chose to but He
>>>> also
>>>> uses my blindness to glorify Him in many ways.
>>>>  Greg thanks so much for sharing this wonderful story. our God is an
>>>> awesome
>>>> God and makes no mistakes. Jeanette
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Greg Aikens" <gpaikens at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 4:15 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] ABout healing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Joshua,
>>>>> Let me start by affirming my belief that God can and does heal people
>>>>> in
>>>>> miraculous ways.  With that said, I take serious issue with your
>>>>> statement
>>>>>
>>>>> that God is not glorified through blindness.  Such a statement limits
>>>>> God's power and belittles blind people.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the most powerful messages I find in the Bible is that God
>>>>> works
>>>>> despite, and through human weakness.  Sometimes he heals, makes
>>>>> strong,
>>>>> and overcomes human weakness.  But other times, he uses those things
>>>>> people think are weak or foolish, and his power is revealed to be all
>>>>> the
>>>>> more strong.  Reread 1 Corinthians 1 and 2 Corinthians 12 for a start.
>>>>> Many argue that the thorn in Paul's flesh in 2 Corinthians 12 was some
>>>>> kind of physical disability.  Paul makes it clear that whatever the
>>>>> thorn
>>>>> was did bring God glory though.
>>>>>
>>>>> For years I  prayed for physical healing of my eyes.  I still believe
>>>>> God
>>>>> can do that if he wants to.  But I had an experience that changed my
>>>>> understanding of God working through my physical weakness.  3 years
>>>>> ago
>>>>> I
>>>>> travelled to a country in Central Asia to work with children with
>>>>> disabilities for a month.  The country is quite hostile toward
>>>>> Americans
>>>>> and christianity.  However, my blindness was a key that opened many
>>>>> doors
>>>>> to connect with people I might not have otherwise met.  Because I was
>>>>> blind, people got over their hatred for Americans and approached me to
>>>>> find out why a blind man had travelled so far to their country.  This
>>>>> led
>>>>> to several redemptive conversations.  The children with disabilities
>>>>> had
>>>>> never been exposed to a successful adult with a disability, and so my
>>>>> mere
>>>>>
>>>>> presence and existence gave them hope for their own lives.  I was
>>>>> overwhelmed because my greatest tool overseas was my blindness.  God
>>>>> had
>>>>> equipped me perfectly to reach out to people whom others can not
>>>>> reach.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't stop praying for healing, just make sure you are reading all of
>>>>> your
>>>>>
>>>>> Bible.  God heals people in miraculous ways and is glorified.  He also
>>>>> equips people to live despite disability or "weakness" which also
>>>>> gives
>>>>> him glory.  I suspect that most of us on this list fall into that
>>>>> second
>>>>> category.  Don't be so quick to dismiss the idea that God can use our
>>>>> blindness to bring about his kingdom.
>>>>>
>>>>> God bless,
>>>>> Greg
>>>>> On Sep 10, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Joshua Lester wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jesus said, that greater things, shall we do, in his name.
>>>>>> When the church walks into the power, and anointing, God has for us,
>>>>>> we will see an increase, in signs, wonders, and miracles.
>>>>>> This anointing isn't just for preachers, (Oral Roberts, Katherine
>>>>>> Kullman, Franklin Walden, Lee Stoneking, etc,) but it's for anyone,
>>>>>> that believes.
>>>>>> Read Mark 16:15/18 again.
>>>>>> Do you believe?
>>>>>> Then, these signs shall follow you.
>>>>>> You've got to have the Holy Ghost in you, and it must come upon you,
>>>>>> (Acts, 1:8,) for that to happen.
>>>>>> This Gospel must be preached, with signs following, as the apostles
>>>>>> did.
>>>>>> "If we want, what the apostles had, we must do what the apostles
>>>>>> did,"
>>>>>> (Pastor Steve Gray.)
>>>>>> BTW, I don't believe, that my blindness is because of a lack of
>>>>>> faith.
>>>>>> Jesus told the blind man, that his was so that God could be
>>>>>> glorified.
>>>>>> He's not glorified in blindness, but rather our healing.
>>>>>> Notice, Jesus healed him.
>>>>>> If I never receive my sight, I'm okay with that, but I'm believing
>>>>>> that I will, as a sign to those Jewish men, I refered to, in the
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> thread.
>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/10/11, Nikki <daizies304 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>    Joshua, just out of curiosity, does it say this in the Bible?
>>>>>>> And what importance does Katherine Kulman have, to say this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 2:30 PM
>>>>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] ABout healing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is coming a time, before the coming of the Lord, when
>>>>>>> everyone,
>>>>>>> will be healed, in a church service.
>>>>>>> I'm refering to physical healing.
>>>>>>> This was prophesied, by none other than Katherine Kulman.
>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/9/11, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> HI listers: As I understand it (relating to the incident of the boy
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> wheelchair being able to walk) God heals us though maybe not in
>>>>>>>> ways
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> understand. I say this because I've always wanted to be a medical
>>>>>>>> doctor,
>>>>>>>> but because of blindness wasn't able to accomplish the career
>>>>>>>> studying
>>>>>>>> instead Psychology. Yes I managed to finish and graduate, but still
>>>>>>>> felt
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> emptiness of not being able to study medicine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The years went by, and a bad experience of the director not wanting
>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> postgrad course of psychology brought me to study Reiki, therapy
>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> do with energy and hands on. Thus I understand that though I wasn't
>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> study medicine, God has given me (and is still giving me) ways to
>>>>>>>> compensate
>>>>>>>> for this, thus healing the sense of loss of not being able to study
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> given
>>>>>>>> career. Am I on the right track?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gerardo
>>>>>>>>
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