[Faith-talk] ABout healing

Sun Sep 11 23:56:18 UTC 2011

Secular music doesn't glorify God.
You have to sing Christian music, to glorify Christ.
It's worship to him.
Blessings, Joshua

On 9/11/11, Jeanette <nettiecosp at yahoo.com> wrote:
> how judgemental are you? he  isn't glorifying god because you have
> determined he isn't wow, that's scary, Jeanette
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
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> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] ABout healing
>
>
>> It's how we live, that glorifies God, or not.
>> It isn't the condition, itself.
>> If Stevie Wonder was glorifying God, with the tallents he was given,
>> then I'd say, because of his disability, he'd be an inspiration for
>> sighted people, and as a fellow blind person, I can say, if he could
>> overcome the odds, I can too.
>> He isn't glorifying God, because he's using his tallent, (which God
>> gave him,) in worldly music.
>> His story still inspires me, to keep moving, and overcome, but he
>> isn't glorifying God.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 9/11/11, Jeanette <nettiecosp at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> God created us and He s=does not make istakes to say that God cannot be
>>> glorified through blindness is stupidity in my opinion, i truly belive
>>> that
>>> my blindness is a blessing and has been, do i wish i could see better?
>>> for
>>> sure, but i am content to know God could heal me if He chose to but He
>>> also
>>> uses my blindness to glorify Him in many ways.
>>>  Greg thanks so much for sharing this wonderful story. our God is an
>>> awesome
>>> God and makes no mistakes. Jeanette
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Greg Aikens" <gpaikens at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 4:15 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] ABout healing
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Joshua,
>>>> Let me start by affirming my belief that God can and does heal people in
>>>> miraculous ways.  With that said, I take serious issue with your
>>>> statement
>>>>
>>>> that God is not glorified through blindness.  Such a statement limits
>>>> God's power and belittles blind people.
>>>>
>>>> One of the most powerful messages I find in the Bible is that God works
>>>> despite, and through human weakness.  Sometimes he heals, makes strong,
>>>> and overcomes human weakness.  But other times, he uses those things
>>>> people think are weak or foolish, and his power is revealed to be all
>>>> the
>>>> more strong.  Reread 1 Corinthians 1 and 2 Corinthians 12 for a start.
>>>> Many argue that the thorn in Paul's flesh in 2 Corinthians 12 was some
>>>> kind of physical disability.  Paul makes it clear that whatever the
>>>> thorn
>>>> was did bring God glory though.
>>>>
>>>> For years I  prayed for physical healing of my eyes.  I still believe
>>>> God
>>>> can do that if he wants to.  But I had an experience that changed my
>>>> understanding of God working through my physical weakness.  3 years ago
>>>> I
>>>> travelled to a country in Central Asia to work with children with
>>>> disabilities for a month.  The country is quite hostile toward Americans
>>>> and christianity.  However, my blindness was a key that opened many
>>>> doors
>>>> to connect with people I might not have otherwise met.  Because I was
>>>> blind, people got over their hatred for Americans and approached me to
>>>> find out why a blind man had travelled so far to their country.  This
>>>> led
>>>> to several redemptive conversations.  The children with disabilities had
>>>> never been exposed to a successful adult with a disability, and so my
>>>> mere
>>>>
>>>> presence and existence gave them hope for their own lives.  I was
>>>> overwhelmed because my greatest tool overseas was my blindness.  God had
>>>> equipped me perfectly to reach out to people whom others can not reach.
>>>>
>>>> Don't stop praying for healing, just make sure you are reading all of
>>>> your
>>>>
>>>> Bible.  God heals people in miraculous ways and is glorified.  He also
>>>> equips people to live despite disability or "weakness" which also gives
>>>> him glory.  I suspect that most of us on this list fall into that second
>>>> category.  Don't be so quick to dismiss the idea that God can use our
>>>> blindness to bring about his kingdom.
>>>>
>>>> God bless,
>>>> Greg
>>>> On Sep 10, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Joshua Lester wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jesus said, that greater things, shall we do, in his name.
>>>>> When the church walks into the power, and anointing, God has for us,
>>>>> we will see an increase, in signs, wonders, and miracles.
>>>>> This anointing isn't just for preachers, (Oral Roberts, Katherine
>>>>> Kullman, Franklin Walden, Lee Stoneking, etc,) but it's for anyone,
>>>>> that believes.
>>>>> Read Mark 16:15/18 again.
>>>>> Do you believe?
>>>>> Then, these signs shall follow you.
>>>>> You've got to have the Holy Ghost in you, and it must come upon you,
>>>>> (Acts, 1:8,) for that to happen.
>>>>> This Gospel must be preached, with signs following, as the apostles
>>>>> did.
>>>>> "If we want, what the apostles had, we must do what the apostles did,"
>>>>> (Pastor Steve Gray.)
>>>>> BTW, I don't believe, that my blindness is because of a lack of faith.
>>>>> Jesus told the blind man, that his was so that God could be glorified.
>>>>> He's not glorified in blindness, but rather our healing.
>>>>> Notice, Jesus healed him.
>>>>> If I never receive my sight, I'm okay with that, but I'm believing
>>>>> that I will, as a sign to those Jewish men, I refered to, in the other
>>>>> thread.
>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/10/11, Nikki <daizies304 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>    Joshua, just out of curiosity, does it say this in the Bible?
>>>>>> And what importance does Katherine Kulman have, to say this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 2:30 PM
>>>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] ABout healing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is coming a time, before the coming of the Lord, when everyone,
>>>>>> will be healed, in a church service.
>>>>>> I'm refering to physical healing.
>>>>>> This was prophesied, by none other than Katherine Kulman.
>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/9/11, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> HI listers: As I understand it (relating to the incident of the boy
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> wheelchair being able to walk) God heals us though maybe not in ways
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> understand. I say this because I've always wanted to be a medical
>>>>>>> doctor,
>>>>>>> but because of blindness wasn't able to accomplish the career
>>>>>>> studying
>>>>>>> instead Psychology. Yes I managed to finish and graduate, but still
>>>>>>> felt
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> emptiness of not being able to study medicine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The years went by, and a bad experience of the director not wanting
>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> postgrad course of psychology brought me to study Reiki, therapy
>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> do with energy and hands on. Thus I understand that though I wasn't
>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> study medicine, God has given me (and is still giving me) ways to
>>>>>>> compensate
>>>>>>> for this, thus healing the sense of loss of not being able to study a
>>>>>>> given
>>>>>>> career. Am I on the right track?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gerardo
>>>>>>>
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